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Azhrei
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Old March 2nd, 2019, 06:48 PM
Hey everyone.

I'm looking for a list of example Perception skill check DCs. My Google-fu appears to be pretty weak, since I can't find anything like that.

If anyone has such a list — or a URL to such a list — I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Old March 2nd, 2019, 11:17 PM
See https://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/perception
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Old March 3rd, 2019, 12:18 PM
Been there, seen that.

No, there was a longer list I saw somewhere. I thought it might've been in the old 3.5 Rules Compendium, but it's not there. It had on it the DC for hearing a cat walk across the floor (DC 30, IIRC). It was a full page of examples like that... the DC to hear someone whispering, someone breathing, someone scratching an itch, and so on. (Okay, maybe that last one wasn't on there.)

Anyway, I'm looking for those types of examples...
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Old March 3rd, 2019, 11:02 PM
There's a list of "Difficulty Class Examples" in the 3.5 DMG on p31. That might be what you recall. It's a long list but it covers the whole range of Skills.

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Old March 4th, 2019, 11:15 AM
Ah, that's excellent. That goes a long ways towards what I was looking for. I know it's not the exact list of examples as it doesn't have the "hear a cat walking" specific item that I remember, but it's very good.

Thanks!
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Old March 4th, 2019, 08:24 PM
Not a very long list, but googling Pathfinder & DC to hear a cat walking, pointed me to the d20 SRD.

DC 19, to hear a cat stalking.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/listen.htm
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Old March 5th, 2019, 09:59 AM
Thanks. I'll try googling some more for "stalking" instead of "walking". But I find that DC to be a little low — only 19 Listen to hear a cat stalking? But I'll take it. Thanks!
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Old March 6th, 2019, 05:38 PM
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There's a list of "Difficulty Class Examples" in the 3.5 DMG on p31. That might be what you recall. It's a long list but it covers the whole range of Skills.
Pathfinder is not 3.5 though... You need to be really careful on this as DCs fall under the purview of the DM, not the players. The one running the game makes the decision on what the DC should be, they do not have to stick to the letter of the writing in the books. The books only provide guidelines. This is something that is good on the inside of the game runner's screen, not so much for character sheets.

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Old March 7th, 2019, 12:05 PM
Yes, I realize that. I just wanted some kind of examples to show the GM as ballpark figures for how to set the DC of various perception checks.

In a recent game session, there was no check allowed for the PCs to notice an invisible creature in the room (although a check was made to allow an opponent NPC to notice a scry sensor). So my goal is twofold: to promote comparable checks for both groups, and to provide some guidelines on the types of things that might trigger a reactive Perception check and what the DC might be like.
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Old March 7th, 2019, 01:28 PM
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Yes, I realize that. I just wanted some kind of examples to show the GM as ballpark figures for how to set the DC of various perception checks.

In a recent game session, there was no check allowed for the PCs to notice an invisible creature in the room (although a check was made to allow an opponent NPC to notice a scry sensor). So my goal is twofold: to promote comparable checks for both groups, and to provide some guidelines on the types of things that might trigger a reactive Perception check and what the DC might be like.
In PF there is a flat DC 20 to notice that there is an invisible creature within 30 feet. (that doesnt tell you where, just that there is) the GM screen lists a few too.
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