Question about snippet tags

[meek75]

OK, so in the major update the ability to add tags to a snippet was added. Prior to the update we could add tags, via the table of contents screen, to an article/topic. What is the advantage to adding tags to a single snippet rather than the whole article/topic?

[Lexin]

I think I'd use that to remind myself to do things like include the necessary NPC in the party rather than forget him, which is what I actually did and had to backtrack rapidly.

Though ideally I'd need it in big letters...

[liz]

Tags on snippets were added so that natural language snippets can be used for tagging. For instance, we can now tag the sentence, "Kiramor is an elf," with the Race:Elf tag. It obviates the need to add a separate tag snippet for his race.

Also, any tags added to the article/topic are always visible to everyone. Snippet tags' visibility is tied to the snippet. So if I'm a GM and I want to tag something for my convenience, but it's info I don't want the players to know, then I can add a tag-based snippet.

I hope that clarifies things.

[AEIOU]

Ahhhh, the visibility is really interesting. I missed that when this was implemented.

[meek75]

Originally Posted by liz

Tags on snippets were added so that natural language snippets can be used for tagging. For instance, we can now tag the sentence, "Kiramor is an elf," with the Race:Elf tag. It obviates the need to add a separate tag snippet for his race.

Also, any tags added to the article/topic are always visible to everyone. Snippet tags' visibility is tied to the snippet. So if I'm a GM and I want to tag something for my convenience, but it's info I don't want the players to know, then I can add a tag-based snippet.

I hope that clarifies things.

Thanks Liz! I hadn't thought about the visibility issue. Still not sure I totally understand the first use you mentioned, but the visibility of tags to players makes a lot of sense.

[kbs666]

Originally Posted by meek75

Thanks Liz! I hadn't thought about the visibility issue. Still not sure I totally understand the first use you mentioned, but the visibility of tags to players makes a lot of sense.

If you tag every snippet with every tag that you can imagine it make searching much easier.

For instance "Fangorn chatted with Galadriel" could be tagged with: Ent, Elf, Treebeard, Noldor, Teleri, Fangorn, Galadriel

Now, assuming you have actually been this thorough, sometime down the road when you want to find every time you mention Ents you can search for the tag and this snippet will come up.

For a big realm where this has been done well it could be very useful. The problem is the amount of time it will take to setup and the amount of time it will take to actually enter the tags.

[meek75]

Originally Posted by kbs666

If you tag every snippet with every tag that you can imagine it make searching much easier.

For instance "Fangorn chatted with Galadriel" could be tagged with: Ent, Elf, Treebeard, Noldor, Teleri, Fangorn, Galadriel

Now, assuming you have actually been this thorough, sometime down the road when you want to find every time you mention Ents you can search for the tag and this snippet will come up.

For a big realm where this has been done well it could be very useful. The problem is the amount of time it will take to setup and the amount of time it will take to actually enter the tags.

Totally agree and I try to tag things a lot. However, when you search the results are on the topic level not the snippet level so I was curious about the advantages of snippet tags vs. topic tags. I'm still getting strange search result too. I did a search for "dragon" and the "Hill Dwarf" topic was returned in the search. There is no reference to dragons or any dragon tags in that article so I don't know why RW selected it for the search. When I search for the "Dragon" tag I get the results I expect. I don't know if keyword searches are bugged or if I am just not understanding how they work.

[davidp]

Originally Posted by meek75

Totally agree and I try to tag things a lot. However, when you search the results are on the topic level not the snippet level so I was curious about the advantages of snippet tags vs. topic tags. I'm still getting strange search result too. I did a search for "dragon" and the "Hill Dwarf" topic was returned in the search. There is no reference to dragons or any dragon tags in that article so I don't know why RW selected it for the search. When I search for the "Dragon" tag I get the results I expect. I don't know if keyword searches are bugged or if I am just not understanding how they work.

The idea behind the feature is that you have a text snippet with text that matches tag names. Then Realm Works can detect and add the tag matching the text and you the user don't have to go manually searching through a list of all domains/tags to find the one you want to add to the topic.

So revisiting Liz's example:

"Kiramor is an elf,"

Realm Works can detect the text elf and match up to the tag elf and create the tag based off that rather than having to open the tag dialog and find the elf tag under the list and then select it.

[meek75]

Originally Posted by davidp

The idea behind the feature is that you have a text snippet with text that matches tag names. Then Realm Works can detect and add the tag matching the text and you the user don't have to go manually searching through a list of all domains/tags to find the one you want to add to the topic.

So revisiting Liz's example:

"Kiramor is an elf,"

Realm Works can detect the text elf and match up to the tag elf and create the tag based off that rather than having to open the tag dialog and find the elf tag under the list and then select it.

OK, I think I am finally getting it. I didn't realize I needed to go into the "Manage Tags" and turn on the feature. I just went into my "Monster Type" Tag and turned on the auto detection. Now when I scan a snippet with the word "Giant", for example, it adds that tag to the snippet. This is a great feature that will save me loads of time. I'm betting a lot of people don't fully understand this feature or how to use it.

Thanks!

[AEIOU]

But we're learning.