Example of house rule bonus skill point?

AkosPrime · November 15th, 2016, 01:14 PM

So, I'm building a custom Faction for a home-game PF campaign. I'm using a Faction rather than a Mechanic or Adjustment because there will be different advantages depending on which island someone comes from, ergo Faction. Since islanders can be of various races, I felt a Faction was the best method for doing this.

I was able to find what I was looking for for some things, but I cannot find an example of the following type of mechanic:

At every character level, a character gets a bonus skill point that must be assigned to a Profession skill.

Can someone point me in the direction of such an example?

I've checked out these threads but haven't found anything that works for me, so I HAVE checked the forums before asking this question:
http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=49502
http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=44679
http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=38747

Thanks in advance!

ShadowChemosh · November 15th, 2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AkosPrime

At every character level, a character gets a bonus skill point that must be assigned to a Profession skill.

I can't think of any way to do this. You can easily give an extra skill point to characters. But no way to Track that "THIS" skill point was used in a Profession skill. For now you will need to either trust players or manually verify they are increasing a profession skill each level.

ShadowChemosh · November 15th, 2016, 01:50 PM

Ok one idea would be to build an ability bootstrapped to a mechanic that does a validation test. That test would be to total all the rank in "Profession" only skills and see that the ranks are equal to or greater than the character level. If this test is not true then put out a validation error that says something like "not enough ranks in profession skills." to remind the player that they used a rank for a non-Profession skill.

AkosPrime · 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowChemosh

I can't think of any way to do this. You can easily give an extra skill point to characters. But no way to Track that "THIS" skill point was used in a Profession skill. For now you will need to either trust players or manually verify they are increasing a profession skill each level.

I'm okay with trusting the players, I can always do an audit of the sheets manually if necessary.

Can you point me in the direction of an example of this that would stack with favored class skill point? I tried using that mechanic first, but found that if that is chosen when advancing only one additional skill point is given, not two. I tried emulating the mechanic in the 'Finding Haleen' trait, but whatever I'm doing is not allowing the skill points to 'stack', I'm only getting one bonus point not two for example when a character has that trait and also has the Faction.

CorzatTheGray · November 16th, 2016, 06:03 AM

Try taking a look at the human skill bonus, maybe?

Seeing as they get an extra skill point per level already seems as though that would be a good place to start in trying to find a script to do this.

Minous · November 16th, 2016, 06:38 AM

You could also create a drop down option at each level listing the professions, and use that to assign the point. (See rogues edge ability)

Aaron · November 16th, 2016, 08:01 AM

There are a couple fighter archetypes which do this, if I recall correctly. They use a validation error to check that the minimum number of skill points have been spent in the target skills and complain if there aren't enough.

Mathias · November 16th, 2016, 08:04 AM

The Lore Warden archetype is an example of what Aaron's referring to.

Aaron · November 16th, 2016, 08:09 AM

I guess Lore Warden is the only example I can find easily, I am sure there are others but they might not be archetypes.

AkosPrime · November 16th, 2016, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mathias

The Lore Warden archetype is an example of what Aaron's referring to.

Awesome! I'll take a look at that tonight when I get home. I guess my problem is figuring out whether I need to just create a validation script, or if I should create a new <something> that I can call via a bootstrap. I tried the bootstrap option and just calling the already created thing (i.e. favored class skill bonus) and that's why they don't stack since it's a duplicate I guess. I'll see how that Lore Warden does it and see if I can emulate that. Thanks again.

CorzatTheGray Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 117 November 16th, 2016, 06:03 AM	Try taking a look at the human skill bonus, maybe? Seeing as they get an extra skill point per level already seems as though that would be a good place to start in trying to find a script to do this. Currently Playing: Pathfinder - Skull & Shackles AP Current Character: Legendary Gunslinger 11 Currently DMing: D&D 5E - AAW Games A-Series
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Minous Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 830 November 16th, 2016, 06:38 AM	You could also create a drop down option at each level listing the professions, and use that to assign the point. (See rogues edge ability)
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Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,793 November 16th, 2016, 08:01 AM	There are a couple fighter archetypes which do this, if I recall correctly. They use a validation error to check that the minimum number of skill points have been spent in the target skills and complain if there aren't enough.
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Mathias Senior Member Lone Wolf Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,213 November 16th, 2016, 08:04 AM	The Lore Warden archetype is an example of what Aaron's referring to.
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