Realmworx

What's going on between you guys and Realmworx? Having CV integrate with their sites would be crucial, so have you contacted them yet? Also, it seems they've taken down their army building programs for the WK related sites because it infringed on your product, Army Builder. Is this something you guys asked them to do, or was a third party involved? I'm not complaining, I would certainly understand wanted to keep your product's names your own, I was just wondering as it caught me by surprise just now.


--Kyle Turner
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They are on my very short list. I am also trying to arrange meetings for
GAMA...

As for the army program, I personally have no knowledge of the situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Turner" <emperor799@earthlink.net>
To: cv@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:26 PM
Subject: [CardVault] Realmworx


> What's going on between you guys and Realmworx? Having CV integrate with
their sites would be crucial, so have you contacted them yet? Also, it seems
they've taken down their army building programs for the WK related sites
because it infringed on your product, Army Builder. Is this something you
guys asked them to do, or was a third party involved? I'm not complaining, I
would certainly understand wanted to keep your product's names your own, I
was just wondering as it caught me by surprise just now.
>
>
> --Kyle Turner
> emperor799@earthlink.net
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> "Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on
ebay." -- astral_drake
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Hmmm. You rather suspiciously skipped over the other half of my post


--Kyle Turner
emperor799@earthlink.net


"Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on ebay." -- astral_drake

----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Bolme
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Realmworx


They are on my very short list. I am also trying to arrange meetings for
GAMA...

As for the army program, I personally have no knowledge of the situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Turner" <emperor799@earthlink.net>
To: "Cardvault Group" <cardvault@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:26 PM
Subject: [CardVault] Realmworx


> What's going on between you guys and Realmworx? Having CV integrate with
their sites would be crucial, so have you contacted them yet? Also, it seems
they've taken down their army building programs for the WK related sites
because it infringed on your product, Army Builder. Is this something you
guys asked them to do, or was a third party involved? I'm not complaining, I
would certainly understand wanted to keep your product's names your own, I
was just wondering as it caught me by surprise just now.
>
>
> --Kyle Turner
> emperor799@earthlink.net
>
>
> "Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on
ebay." -- astral_drake
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[rob]

At 01:26 AM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>What's going on between you guys and Realmworx? Having CV integrate with
>their sites would be crucial, so have you contacted them yet?

Ed addressed this one, as its his department.

>Also, it seems they've taken down their army building programs for the WK
>related sites because it infringed on your product, Army Builder. Is this
>something you guys asked them to do, or was a third party involved? I'm
>not complaining, I would certainly understand wanted to keep your
>product's names your own, I was just wondering as it caught me by surprise
>just now.

Yes, we approached them about the trademark issue once we became aware of
their use of our trademark. They are now in the process of changing the
names of the tools and re-releasing them. The tools should be available
again in the very near future. We've got nothing against the tools. In
fact, the way they're starting is much like the way Army Builder started,
so I've got nothing but respect for what they're doing!

The problem is that trademark law is very funny. With a trademark, if you
don't actively puruse its protection and enforcement, you stand a very good
chance of losing it. So, if we wish to protect the trademark, we're
compelled to act, even if it's something that we're not happy about doing.
Such is the case with the tools under Realmworx. :-(

Fortunately, the authors of those tools (who are not associated with
Realmworx in any way, I might add) were very understanding about the
situation and have been very responsive. We asked them to take certain
actions while rectifying the situation - actions that did NOT include
taking the whole site down. THEY made the choice to take everything down
while reworking things. We did NOT ask it of them. They are in the process
of picking a new name that doesn't include our trademark and re-releasing
the tools. From my discussions with Shawn (one of the authors), I would
guess that everything should be renamed and back online in pretty short order.

Hope this helps to explain the situation....

Thanks, Rob

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Thanks a bunch. I was rather surprised to see them down, and when I read why, I wondered if this was due to something on your part, or something they recognized of their own accord. As I said, I bear you no ill will, I was just wondering, and thanks for the speedy response.


--Kyle Turner
emperor799@earthlink.net


"Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on ebay." -- astral_drake

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Realmworx


At 01:26 AM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>What's going on between you guys and Realmworx? Having CV integrate with
>their sites would be crucial, so have you contacted them yet?

Ed addressed this one, as its his department.

>Also, it seems they've taken down their army building programs for the WK
>related sites because it infringed on your product, Army Builder. Is this
>something you guys asked them to do, or was a third party involved? I'm
>not complaining, I would certainly understand wanted to keep your
>product's names your own, I was just wondering as it caught me by surprise
>just now.

Yes, we approached them about the trademark issue once we became aware of
their use of our trademark. They are now in the process of changing the
names of the tools and re-releasing them. The tools should be available
again in the very near future. We've got nothing against the tools. In
fact, the way they're starting is much like the way Army Builder started,
so I've got nothing but respect for what they're doing!

The problem is that trademark law is very funny. With a trademark, if you
don't actively puruse its protection and enforcement, you stand a very good
chance of losing it. So, if we wish to protect the trademark, we're
compelled to act, even if it's something that we're not happy about doing.
Such is the case with the tools under Realmworx. :-(

Fortunately, the authors of those tools (who are not associated with
Realmworx in any way, I might add) were very understanding about the
situation and have been very responsive. We asked them to take certain
actions while rectifying the situation - actions that did NOT include
taking the whole site down. THEY made the choice to take everything down
while reworking things. We did NOT ask it of them. They are in the process
of picking a new name that doesn't include our trademark and re-releasing
the tools. From my discussions with Shawn (one of the authors), I would
guess that everything should be renamed and back online in pretty short order.

Hope this helps to explain the situation....

Thanks, Rob

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