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Old August 8th, 2000, 10:14 AM
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Old August 8th, 2000, 11:35 AM
One fine day in the middle of the night, Matthius <Mathius@ticnet.com>
got up to write:

> Hey Colen,
> *
> Don't know if any harassed you yet about this or not... On the Steel Legion
> list under elites you have Catachan Devils and Veteran Assault Units. I
> think <could be wrong> that you can not have these as they are Catachan
> Units... Just a FYI

Steel Legion says you can take anything in an Imperial Guard army, IIRC.
Imperial Guard armies can include the above units. Therefore...

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Old August 8th, 2000, 11:49 AM
Hmmm... I'll double check my codex... <not that I have enough points in a
Steel Legion force to include them anyway>... Doing this at work <love the
AB CD heh> so not absolutely sure hehe

Matt

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To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AB] Hey Colen


> One fine day in the middle of the night, Matthius <Mathius@ticnet.com>
> got up to write:
>
> > Hey Colen,
> >
> > Don't know if any harassed you yet about this or not... On the Steel
Legion
> > list under elites you have Catachan Devils and Veteran Assault Units.
I
> > think <could be wrong> that you can not have these as they are
Catachan
> > Units... Just a FYI
>
> Steel Legion says you can take anything in an Imperial Guard army, IIRC.
> Imperial Guard armies can include the above units. Therefore...
>
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Old August 8th, 2000, 12:10 PM
C:A pg 29 3rd paragraph:

"Deathworld veteran units from codex: catachans may not be used in a steel
legion mechanized infantry company."

The only unit in C:C that can be taken is the Deathworld Sentinel Squadron.
It specifically states in the special rules section that Deathworld
Sentinels don't count as Deathworld Veterans.

Shawn Campbell

> From: Matthius [mailto:Mathius@ticnet.com]
> Hmmm... I'll double check my codex... <not that I have enough points in a
> Steel Legion force to include them anyway>... Doing this at work <love the
> AB CD heh> so not absolutely sure hehe
>
> Matt
>

> From: "'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills" <demandred@skrill.org>
> > Steel Legion says you can take anything in an Imperial Guard army, IIRC.
> > Imperial Guard armies can include the above units. Therefore...

>


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Old August 8th, 2000, 12:16 PM
I thought I wasn't hallucinating Thanks Shawn...

Matt

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From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: [AB] Hey Colen


> C:A pg 29 3rd paragraph:
>
> "Deathworld veteran units from codex: catachans may not be used in a steel
> legion mechanized infantry company."
>
> The only unit in C:C that can be taken is the Deathworld Sentinel
Squadron.
> It specifically states in the special rules section that Deathworld
> Sentinels don't count as Deathworld Veterans.
>
> Shawn Campbell
>
> > From: Matthius [mailto:Mathius@ticnet.com]
> > Hmmm... I'll double check my codex... <not that I have enough points in
a
> > Steel Legion force to include them anyway>... Doing this at work <love
the
> > AB CD heh> so not absolutely sure hehe
> >
> > Matt
> >
>
> > From: "'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills" <demandred@skrill.org>
> > > Steel Legion says you can take anything in an Imperial Guard army,
IIRC.
> > > Imperial Guard armies can include the above units. Therefore...
>
> >
>
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Old August 8th, 2000, 12:17 PM
I detachment of Catachan Devils may be taken by any IG army, I dont believe
the Catachan Assault Squads may be taken by any other than Catachans.

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Old August 8th, 2000, 02:21 PM
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:

>C:A pg 29 3rd paragraph:
>
>"Deathworld veteran units from codex: catachans may not be used in a steel
>legion mechanized infantry company."
>
>The only unit in C:C that can be taken is the Deathworld Sentinel Squadron.
>It specifically states in the special rules section that Deathworld
>Sentinels don't count as Deathworld Veterans.

Hmm, good show. I'll fix it in Beta or Alpha-III.

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Old August 8th, 2000, 02:30 PM
hi, i noted when i downloaded V2.0 AB that the 40k IG stuff had a lot of new
armor variants, mostly from forge world. where do i get the offical play
rules for these variants?
rd

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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 22:20
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Subject: Re: [AB] Hey Colen


One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:

>C:A pg 29 3rd paragraph:
>
>"Deathworld veteran units from codex: catachans may not be used in a steel
>legion mechanized infantry company."
>
>The only unit in C:C that can be taken is the Deathworld Sentinel Squadron.
>It specifically states in the special rules section that Deathworld
>Sentinels don't count as Deathworld Veterans.

Hmm, good show. I'll fix it in Beta or Alpha-III.

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Old August 8th, 2000, 04:15 PM
Most of the "un-official" rules for the armor variants are in Citadel
Journal and Inquisitor.. You can find the rules posted several places on the
net. The warp is good and so is Portent.. check those two sites, they
probably have them still up

Matt

reason I say un-official is because I believe they are not Chapter
Approved.. I may be wrong on that though.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:30 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: RE: [AB] Hey Colen


hi, i noted when i downloaded V2.0 AB that the 40k IG stuff had a lot of new
armor variants, mostly from forge world. where do i get the offical play
rules for these variants?
rd

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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 22:20
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: Re: [AB] Hey Colen


One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:

>C:A pg 29 3rd paragraph:
>
>"Deathworld veteran units from codex: catachans may not be used in a steel
>legion mechanized infantry company."
>
>The only unit in C:C that can be taken is the Deathworld Sentinel Squadron.
>It specifically states in the special rules section that Deathworld
>Sentinels don't count as Deathworld Veterans.

Hmm, good show. I'll fix it in Beta or Alpha-III.

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Old August 8th, 2000, 05:07 PM
Greetings from a newcomer to the list (though not to Army Builder, nor 40K).

I play Dark Angels, and I have a small quibble with the Dark Angels
datafiles (v2.0 Pattern Alpha). Specifically, with the way it handles the
Master/Grand Master of the Deathwing.

A quote form his rule entry, P6, Codexark Angels

Master of the Deathwing: One Master or Grand Master may be made Master of
the Deathwing. He *must* be equipped with Terminator Armor, and may be given
any additional equipment allowed from the Dark Angels Armory. If accompanied
by a Command squad, then it must be upgraded to a Deathwing Command squad
(see Command squad entry opposite).

[emphasis mine]

Firstly, is he in fact a special character? I looked all through my codex,
and I found no mention of it. The Master of the Ravenwing mentions that he
is, both in the Dark Angels Hero section, and in his special rules. But
there is no such mention in the Master of the Deathwing entry.

Secondly, why does the AB entry for him give him his required terminator
armor for free? He is costed at 80 for a Grand Master, and 65 for a Master,
the same as his non-Deathwing compatriots. He should cost 25 points over the
non-upgraded characters (105pts / 90pts).

Thirdly, I'd like to thank everyone involved for producing these files, and
hope that just because my first public comment on them is a criticism, that
they realize that I enormously appreciate their time and effort.

Ian Argent, Member of the Inner Circle of the Dark Angels


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