Grouping Items in Lists

[zarlor]

I must be missing something here, but I'm trying to group things like Equipment or Weapons into like lists. I can sometimes get it to work with certain default categories but not always, and I pretty much never with my own categories.

Let's take Equipment for example. In HoE Reloaded there are several Drugs which can be added at equipment. So I'd like them to show up on the Gear list like:

– Drugs –
Amanitrol
Axor
etc..

So my thinking here is that I need to create a new piece of equipment and set the following fields:

Name: – Drugs –
UniqueID: eqHESepDru
Equipment Type: - New Tag -
(That new Tag then asks me to name the tag, let's call it "Drugs" and name an abbreviation can stay blank since the Tag works fine as is)
I also set Source: HoER, like all of this gear is/will be
Finally I click the on the "Show Only?" setting since I don't want this as a purchasable item (it's just a separator, after all)

Then I Save it and hit "Test Now!" sho my new category will show up in the drop list.

Next I create the actual equipment, so for Axor, for example:

Name: Axor
UniqueID: eqHEAxor
Description: (The description)
Cost: 100
Equipment Type: Drugs (Since I Tested it earlier it's not on my Drop Down list of selections!)
Source: HoER

I also make it Holdable with a Lot Size of 1 and that stacks will "Merge Existing", nothing too important for our purposes right now, though.

So, after doing all of that I can Save and Compile it all and even do a Quick Reload of the Data Files but when I set up my HoE Character, with my Source of HoER Selected at Character Config, I can see the greyed-out "- Drugs -" heading and I can see Axor on my list, but they are not sorted/grouped together.

What am I missing here?

[CapedCrusader]

What's missing is the GearType and WeaponType tag lists in the tags.1st file. This is what it uses to set the sort order for weapons. If the new categories aren't in this list, they don't get used for the sort. I don't know if there's a way to add to these tag lists without editing the tags1st file. I'll find out.

[zarlor]

I did see that on the Wiki and how they were defined in the tags.1st file, but trying to add the group lines for it into the HoER.1st file I have just gave an error on not recognizing the "group" tag, so I'm guessing the can't really be overwritten or necessarily appended to.

But it seems that many of them are tagged to "Treat as standard gear" which I had wanted to turn off that I'm not sure that they tags will even work... I may have to play around with that a bit more, though. Make sure I set new separators to existing types as seen in the tags.1st file along with the appropriate gear and maybe then I can get things to sort right. I'll let you know if that seems to work, at least.

[jbearwillis]

A lot of game settings have vehicle add-ons and there are a few others things that just don't fit into the other categories and to lump them all into misc will become a mess if you have several things. All I do in settings that I make myself is use the no standard gear option and then rename dividers I don't use for ones I do. the down fall to that is if people wants to use the other divider names for things they add. It works but isn't perfect by no means. I tried to change in the first files with no luck, so I went the route I did.

[zarlor]

Ok, so just setting up a Separator with the category name I wanted, but setting it to am already existing "type" (all of which are found in the tags.1st file and using that for a guideline of what order they will be sorted in) I was able to get everything sorted and grouped together properly. So that appears to be the method to use, which was just not all that intuitive for me originally. Go figure.

At any rate, with that in place and a few other bug fixes, etc., I just want to expand the Ammo list a bit (put in the different types, like AP and so on) and I expect to have an update out no later than Friday.

I might add that I just need to do the same with some of the other settings I've been working on, but suffice to say that at the moment I've got files in the works now for Deadlands Noir, Tour of Darkness and Pirates of the Spanish Main... the latter may take some extra work because of the Fame system, but at least I have pretty much all of the Edges, Hindrances, Gear, Weapons and Armor in for those... well, except for doing all of the right sorting/grouping we've been talking about here.