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Sendric
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Old August 21st, 2014, 06:32 AM
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It seems my client of Herolab (or a setting in windows itself) doesn't like to register what is currently selected in the menu option, which after I select it (been clicking on a random size option then back) it works. I will admit I have been playing with the HL Editor alot last night adding my own variants for some home-brewed games. Could it be possible that when I do a test in the editor that it might (somewhere/somereason) mess with the GUI of HL a bit?
It's certainly possible. Test Now sometimes changes things depending on what's been changed in the editor. CTRL-R will change things if you choose not to save, meaning it will revert back to whatever was chosen in the drop down the last time you did save.

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Also I got this question.
I noticed that Sword-bows don't register on the weapon focus list. Currently using the Scout class for my build with the sword-bow. Is there a possible function I am missing here or is it a bug? If the ladder I hope its not a big issue.

Thanks for the input!
I don't see any sword-bows entered in the community set. Do you have a weapon called sword-bow that you are trying to use?
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Old August 21st, 2014, 08:24 AM
i believe sword-bow is from the Magic Item Compendium. probably hasnt been entered yet.

its a magic item.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 09:22 AM
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i believe sword-bow is from the Magic Item Compendium. probably hasnt been entered yet.

its a magic item.
As Mirtos stated, it is in the Magic item compendium (verified) and is available as a magic weapon (its considered a two handed martial weapon), most of the menus through-out the d20 builder do see or recognize this weapon except when I choose feat weapon focus (menu entry missing for this weapon); not a build breaker by any means, just curious.

On a side note getting the Meteor Hammer weapon to even show up within the character builder portion of the program is almost without a cause. This is another weapon I found available within the Editor (snooping through the available dataset files provided from Lawful_G community files, only set of dataset files I have for d20), but through normal means just wants to be fussy.

I ask if any other members want to check for themselves the issues I have reported. This way at least we can trace it to a data file or just my client's setup. I really never experience problems with my client or system, but this is the first time I dug deep into the builder for my characters since every one of my characters has at least one main component about them that is not available currently. Good news is I got all three of my main campaign characters entered after building a few races.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 09:50 AM
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As Mirtos stated, it is in the Magic item compendium (verified) and is available as a magic weapon (its considered a two handed martial weapon), most of the menus through-out the d20 builder do see or recognize this weapon except when I choose feat weapon focus (menu entry missing for this weapon); not a build breaker by any means, just curious.
Ok, I see it now. I wasn't looking under specific magic weapons. Specific magic weapons don't show up under Weapon Focus. The description doesn't say anything one way or the other, but my guess is that if you took Weapon Focus (longsword) you would gain the benefit while this item is in longsword form, and the same for taking longbow as your weapon focus. The others would work the same with the greatsword, shortbow, etc. I have put in a fix to allow this to work (use the Counts as Weapon... button in the editor).

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On a side note getting the Meteor Hammer weapon to even show up within the character builder portion of the program is almost without a cause. This is another weapon I found available within the Editor (snooping through the available dataset files provided from Lawful_G community files, only set of dataset files I have for d20), but through normal means just wants to be fussy.

I ask if any other members want to check for themselves the issues I have reported. This way at least we can trace it to a data file or just my client's setup. I really never experience problems with my client or system, but this is the first time I dug deep into the builder for my characters since every one of my characters has at least one main component about them that is not available currently. Good news is I got all three of my main campaign characters entered after building a few races.
You need to have the source Pathfinder - Legacy of Fire checked in your configuration window. Meteor hammer will then appear as a normal weapon.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 10:25 AM
Actually, Sendric is 100% right. Its a sword that changes into a bow, and a bow that changes into a sword. Its not a special item that you would have to be trained in. Its in effect, two different weapons.

So you would have to have Weapon Focus: longsword, and Weapon Focus: longbow to have the weapon focus in either form.

i imagine coding this would be difficult, so it would be up for the player/dm to remember which one is active...
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Old August 21st, 2014, 11:12 AM
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Actually, Sendric is 100% right. Its a sword that changes into a bow, and a bow that changes into a sword. Its not a special item that you would have to be trained in. Its in effect, two different weapons.

So you would have to have Weapon Focus: longsword, and Weapon Focus: longbow to have the weapon focus in either form.

i imagine coding this would be difficult, so it would be up for the player/dm to remember which one is active...
It's actually done already. Bodrin entered the weapons some time ago, and when he did he created two weapons (one that you select, and another that gets bootstrapped). The only thing he missed was to make each of these items properly count as a longsword or longbow. I've made the appropriate changes for each of the swordbow weapons, and added a note to my to-do list to go through all of the specific magic items and check to see if they have the same issues. My guess is at least some do.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 12:07 PM
makes sense as bootstraps. which is the default or the weapon? I guess it doesnt matter. because as a DM, I would require someone to have both weapon focuses to be able to get the weapon focus in either form.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:16 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Sendric and Mirtos.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 04:34 PM
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makes sense as bootstraps. which is the default or the weapon? I guess it doesnt matter. because as a DM, I would require someone to have both weapon focuses to be able to get the weapon focus in either form.
Both versions of the weapon are present in the weapons tab. You just select which one you are holding. I think this makes sense because you can use both versions of the weapon in a single round. For me, I think it would make sense to just treat it like two weapons. When its a longsword, you get the bonus from weapon focus (longsword) and when its a longbow you get the bonus from weapon focus (longbow). I wouldn't require both, but certainly you don't get the bonus for one if you don't have the weapon focus for it.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 04:47 PM
That's what I meant when I said I would require both. In reality the weapon is in essence giving you a very specialized quick draw.
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