BUg: Range modifiers on character sheet

[JoethebigItalianguy]

When you increase the range on powers with extras, the increased range doesn't appear on the printed character sheet. It only shows the powers at their base range

[Colen]

JoethebigItalianguy wrote:
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> When you increase the range on powers with extras, the increased range
> doesn't appear on the printed character sheet. It only shows the powers
> at their base range


I can't reproduce this bug. What powers / extras do you have to add to
make it occur?


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Colen McAlister, colen@wolflair.com
Chief Engineer, Lone Wolf Development

[Grayson7]

I'm not the original poster but I think I know what he is talking about. I made the power, Blast and assigned 4 ranks. It gave me a range of 40 feet, which is correct because one range increment is rank times 10 feet. However, when I added the feat, Improved Range, it still listed the power's range as 40 feet when it should have listed it as 100 feet (rank times 25 feet) instead of (rank times 10 feet). That assumes that you intended for the software to actually reflect the change caused by adding the feat.

It should be noted that I am using the demo version (waiting for Ultimate Power dataset) so I could not print it out; however, the range is shown underneath the power as well as in the print preview as only 40 feet in spite of the Improved Range feat.

[thorfin]

It will state the base range, and then in parenthesis later on, it will say "Improved Range (x4)" and so on.

[Grayson7]

Yeah, I get that. However, that parenthetical number only shows what the rank is multiplied by to get the new range increment, it does not show the new range increment itself. I would think that it should show the new range increment, in other words the base range with the Improved Range factored in. The lack of this creates issues in other areas. For example if you click on the "Special" tab, under "Attacks," it will not show the proper range of a power that has the Improved Range feat, it still shows the base range. This is also the same case for the "Attacks" summary on the left column of the character sheet.

[krathen]

In other words, you want it to do the math for you because of record keeping issues, it seems like the application works as Colen is expecting it too, thus why he didn't find a "bug" it's more you'd like him to change how it handles it. (Which honestly makes sense to me, I don't want to have to do that math all the time)

[LinusMundane]

I also like when you take ranks of Leaping and your jump is still calculated to be like 13 ft.

[Colen]

Grayson7 wrote:
>
>
> I'm not the original poster but I think I know what he is talking about.
> I made the power, Blast and assigned 4 ranks. It gave me a rank of 40
> feet, which is correct because one range increment is rank times 10
> feet. However, when I added the feat, Improved Range, it still listed
> the power's range as 40 feet when it should have listed it as 100 feet
> (rank times 25 feet) instead of (rank times 10 feet). That assumes that
> you intended for the software to actually reflect the change caused by
> adding the feat.


Good point, I'll see if I can get this added. Thanks!


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Colen McAlister, colen@wolflair.com
Chief Engineer, Lone Wolf Development

[Colen]

LinusMundane wrote:
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> I also like when you take ranks of Leaping and your jump is still
> calculated to be like 13 ft.


Hmm, I thought I'd handled that... I guess not. I'll try and get it fixed.


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Colen McAlister, colen@wolflair.com
Chief Engineer, Lone Wolf Development

[Nigel Fogg The Wayfarer]

Originally Posted by Colen

Grayson7 wrote:
>
>
> I'm not the original poster but I think I know what he is talking about.
> I made the power, Blast and assigned 4 ranks. It gave me a rank of 40
> feet, which is correct because one range increment is rank times 10
> feet. However, when I added the feat, Improved Range, it still listed
> the power's range as 40 feet when it should have listed it as 100 feet
> (rank times 25 feet) instead of (rank times 10 feet). That assumes that
> you intended for the software to actually reflect the change caused by
> adding the feat.


Good point, I'll see if I can get this added. Thanks!


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Colen McAlister, colen@wolflair.com
Chief Engineer, Lone Wolf Development

Hmm, I thought I had rememberd this being discussed before. Apologies for now having it in two threads.

PF: Improved Range and PF: Progression, Increase Range.

Found a problem with how these two PFs are working with each other and the Power: Blast. Have not checked it against other powers but I suspect it would happen with them as well.

First, when using Progression, Increase Range which affects the MAXIMUM range (and it would be nice if that were written as Ranged, 30ft/max 300ft) isn't following the correct formula: Max range = (R.I. x 10 x Progression value)

You'll see in the example below that there's something odd going on with Improved Range as well.

Example, a rank 7 Blast with a single level of each of the two PFs (x2 on the chart) should have a Range Increment of 140 ft. and a max range of 1,400 ft. but the printout has "Improved Range (175 ft incr) (Standard(Active) - Ranged, 140ft. - Instant)"

If you buy two levels of each PF (x5 on the chart) to reflect realistic air-to-air combat range. Instead of a R.I. of 350 ft (with a max of 17,500 ft) one gets "Improved Range (350 ft incr) (Standard(Active) - Ranged, 350ft. - Instant)"

Even without the PFs, it would be nice to have the change made to: Ranged, R.I. ft. / Max value ft. on the sheet.

Nigel Fogg, aka The Wayfarer.