Warforged in HL - A question from the Paizo forums

[Mathias]

Rather than changing rWaF to WaF, change your expr-req to:

 
hero.tagis[Race.rWaF] <> 0

There's no need to create a specific WaF race tag, just use the one that's auto-created when you created the race.

[Mathias]

Originally Posted by RKeenJr

I have noticed if I choose Warforged as a race in a new character it remains red and shows '???' in the alerts.

Sorry I am trying to get this to work so I can assure my friends it will do what we need for our gaming group. If I can do that they will be purchasing copies.

Thanks again,
Rick

Check any Eval Rules you've created. "???" is the default message for an Eval Rule that's not fulfilled - you probably missed changing the message.

[Mathias]

I wasn't clear enough about my terminology.

When I say "Timing: Final/10000", that means "Phase: Final" priority: 10000".

I apologize for that. I keep forgetting that there's now a set of "Timing" details at the bottom of the eval rules/scripts. So, please check the phase and priority of your Eval Scripts and Eval Rules.

I also made a mistake in the Race tag - Pathfinder auto-generates a Race tag for all races, d20 doesn't. So you were correct. You do need to create a new race tag before you can make use of it in d20.

[Mathias]

Also, to clear up your question about the armor. It was never intended that warforged armor is pre-selected for the user. The user has to go to the Armor tab and select the suit themselves. Until you do so, the Warforged race will be invalid, because it has an Eval Rule requiring that exactly one piece of warforged armor.

That way, a warforged can enchant their armor (chosen from the Custom, Magic & Masterwork Armor list) or not (chosen from the Other Armor list).

[Mathias]

On your composite plating armor, move the contents of your Eval Rule to an Eval script - you only want to execute an instruction. Eval Rules also test that something is valid while they execute instructions.

[RKeenJr]

Thanks Mathias! I will go and make sure I look at all your solutions and implement them!

Rick

[dstack1776]

Just went through these steps - works well even for a HL newbie like me.... Thanks!

A question... I there a way to modify the Composite Plating to allow it to be used by Monks and still count as unarmored as far as Monk special abilities go? (i.e. various AC bonuses)

[Mathias]

Interesting. Until I read the Monk section in "Warforged as Characters" (Races of Eberron, pg. 23), I would have interpreted the composite plating as counting as wearing armor for the purpose of monk abilities, requiring the Unarmored Body feat (Races of Eberron, pg. 120) to avoid that. Let me look into the mechanics and see if there's a way to have something count as armor for the purpose of not being able to wear other armors, but not count as armor for the purpose of class abilities.

[Mathias]

Try adding this script to the composite plating:

Phase: Pre-Levels, priority: 10000

 
foreach pick in hero from Ability where "AddReq.ArmorNone"
  perform eachpick.delete[AddReq.ArmorNone]
  nexteach

That ought to remove the requirement from all the character's abilities that they can only be used if the character isn't wearing armor (namely the Monk's AC and speed abilities).

P.S. The AddReq tag mechanism that consolidates armor requirements into a standard mechanism doesn't exist in the d20 files, only in Pathfinder.

In d20, you'd need to create replacement copies of each of the abilities you wanted to modify, altering their scripts to ignore warforged armor.

[ShadowChemosh]

Originally Posted by Mathias

Interesting. Until I read the Monk section in "Warforged as Characters" (Races of Eberron, pg. 23), I would have interpreted the composite plating as counting as wearing armor for the purpose of monk abilities,

It does. This is a known error that was later Errata from the book. Any type of composite plating for a Warforged past their natural +2 is considered armor for all things including Barbarian's fast movement and for monks wearing armor. So a monk Warforged that wanted to retain all his abilities needs to use the base plating that gives +2 or the Unarmed Body feat.

Well at least by Core obviously one can house rule anyway they want.