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That's what I'm trying to avoid. I want to keep the racial HD as well as the class levels. I just don't want the racial HD to count as class levels for XP advancement. As HL works, it just doesn't work unfortunately. |
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I wish my DM would allow that. My Half(red)-Dragon Troll would have been awesome. Well, more awesome anyway.
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Hmm ok. Will take a look as soon as I can....
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Now the argument to balance out characters is valid. A 1st level Ogre is not the equivalent of a 1st level base race character. In order to balance party level, that makes sense, but only as a metric for party balance, and not a catch-all for how experience is distributed. For example, I believe ECL is a great metric to indicate a 1st level Ogre is the equivalent of a 4th level character, but I still think the Ogre starts at 0 XP and would need 1000 XP to gain level. He just increases the party level balance with the ECL of 4th, basically for determining CR of encounters and overall party level or division of experience. Otherwise, an Ogre that is just an Ogre (from birth, childhood, adolescence, and adulthood, just like a base race character) would have to gain 6000 XP before it even chooses its first class, and will take another 4000 XP before it would gain another level. What?!? In any case, I wouldn't even allow for a half-dragon troll, so you wouldn't like me as a DM. :P Rant over. |
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For the most part I agree with Kendall-DM actually. My view was the amount of complication to the game never provided a good return on the investment. I was very happy when Pathfinder simply removed all those rules. Which was also why when you brought this all up I had to spend time reading the rules as I simply never used them.
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I don't disagree with your points. I just like having excuses to bring up my old Half-Dragon Troll friend. I miss him. |
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Level Adjustment is gone, sure. But racial HD are still considered equivalent to "levels". See the section "Monstrous Characters" on pp. 405-406 of the Core Rulebook. Basically, the advice is for characters of the "regular" races to start with bonus levels so the total (class levels + racial HD) for all characters is the same. |
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