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1. Re: Re: Re: a little help please...
From: "Robert Feuillerat" <R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com>
2. well that was short...
From: "Robert Feuillerat" <R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com>
3. Re: well that was short...
From: Fred <frederic_de_bovee@yahoo.fr>
4. RE: well that was short...
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
5. RE: well that was short...
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
6. Re: Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
From: "terry_maltman" <terrymaltman@hotmail.com>
7. Re: Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
From: "Terry Maltman" <terrymaltman@hotmail.com>


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 09:50:15 -0400
From: "Robert Feuillerat" <R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: a little help please...

Sorry, jumped the gun on my second post. After I Def'd the file I open
ABCReator and there it was, opened it and my settings are there. I corrected
that spelling error too. I think I am ready to start setting up units.....

Thanks

Robert


>Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:23:29 -0400
> From: <mgehl@cox.net>
>Subject: Re: Re: a little help please...
>
>I'd check the allowable characters, fo example, is "OGRE
>MINITURES" (BTW, it's spelled miniatures) too many characters for
>that field?
>
>
> >
> > From: "Robert Feuillerat" <R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com>
> > Date: 2003/06/30 Mon PM 05:42:46 EDT
> > To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [AB] a little help please...
> >
> > Ok, that was skull-numb mistake.
> >
> > So that has been corrected now. I def'd it and when I try to
>ABData
> > Tool it I get a message:
> > Error-invalid data in header section: Description
> > [General]
> >
> > my command line is
> > c:\Armybuilder>abdata data\datadef.ogr data\ogrea.txt data\
>data.ogr
> >
> > here's the updated version.
> >
> > ~Ogre Definition file
> > ~--------------------
> > General
> > Game=OGRE MINITURES
> > MinSize=500
> > Items=none
> > LdrName=Commander
> > LdrAbbrev=Cmdr
> > Basis=points
> > Scale=100
> > Cost=4
> > Decimal=0
> > Round=normal
> > Orient=any
> > TweakAbbrevs=hide
> > Army=Army
> > Scenario=Scenario
> > PtsSingle=Point
> > PtsPlural=Points
> > PtsAbbrev=Pts
> > Publish
> > VersionMajor=2
> > VersionMinor=1
> > PatchRequired=none
> > AuthorName=Robert Feuillerat
> > AuthorEmail=R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com
> > LockCode=none
> > Stats
> > Att |3 | 0 | 0=- | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
> > Rng |3 | 0 | 0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
> > Def |3 | 0 | 0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
> > Mov |3 | 0 | 0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
> > MoM |3 | 0 | 0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
> > Siz |3 | 0 | 0=- | 99 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
> > Pts |3 | 0 | 0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
> > Compositions
> > Infantry | Inf
> > Armor | Arm
> > Ogre | Ogre
> > Structures | Strc
> > Allies | Ally
> > Units
> > Combine | Com |0
> > PanEuro | Pan |0
> > options
> > conflicts
> > tweaks
> > sets
> > items
> > end
> >
> > Any ideas of what I am missing?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > --- In armybuilder@yahoogroups.com, <mgehl@c...> wrote:
> > > At first glance, a problem I can see is that empty line between
> > items and end. You'll need to delete that.
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 10:42:33 -0400
From: "Robert Feuillerat" <R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com>
Subject: well that was short...

Ok, that was short...
I have two problems that I can seem to find in the manual.

The stat for Movement can have a single number or a #/# combo. How do I set
it up in the def/text file to permit that?

The stat for Movement Mode is an abbreviation, GEV, HOV, TNK... How do I set
to permit that?

here's the new text file...

~Ogre Definition file
~--------------------
General
Game=OGRE MINIATURES
MinSize=500
Items=none
LdrName=Commander
LdrAbbrev=Cmdr
Basis=points
Scale=100
Cost=4
Decimal=0
Round=normal
Orient=any
TweakAbbrevs=hide
Army=Army
Scenario=Scenario
PtsSingle=Point
PtsPlural=Points
PtsAbbrev=Pts
Publish
VersionMajor=2
VersionMinor=1
PatchRequired=none
AuthorName=Robert Feuillerat
AuthorEmail=R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com
LockCode=none
Stats
Att |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Rng |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Def |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Mov |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
MoM |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Siz |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 99 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Pts |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Compositions
Infantry | Inf
Armor | Arm
Ogre | Ogre
Structures | Strc
Allies | Ally
Units
Africa | Afr |0
Arabian | Ara |0
Austrailia| Aus |0
Chinese | Chi |0
Great Brit| GB |0
Nihon | Hih |0
Combine | Com |0
PanEuro | Pan |0
South Afr | SA |0
options
conflicts
tweaks
sets
items
end

This is so cool....

Thanks

Robert

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:48:55 +0200 (CEST)
From: Fred <frederic_de_bovee@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: well that was short...

--- Robert Feuillerat <R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com> a écrit*: > Ok,
that was short...
> I have two problems that I can seem to find in the manual.
>
> The stat for Movement can have a single number or a #/# combo. How do
> I set
> it up in the def/text file to permit that?
Define a single number variable in datadef file, and use unit local
attributes :
attr:name="value"{#race}{#mode}{#legal}
to make some of your units look like #/#.

>
> The stat for Movement Mode is an abbreviation, GEV, HOV, TNK... How
> do I set
> to permit that?

Define a mapping with
smap:stat-map:x1{-y1}=z1{,x2{-y2}=z2}... (Race Attribute.)


Garfunkel

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:33:23 -0700
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
Subject: RE: well that was short...

For the first problem, I'd use multi-stat (see the local unit attribute
strm), which you can find in the manual.

Mathias Gehl
mgehl@cox.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Feuillerat [mailto:R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:43 AM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] well that was short...

Ok, that was short...
I have two problems that I can seem to find in the manual.

The stat for Movement can have a single number or a #/# combo. How do I
set
it up in the def/text file to permit that?

The stat for Movement Mode is an abbreviation, GEV, HOV, TNK... How do I
set
to permit that?

here's the new text file...

~Ogre Definition file
~--------------------
General
Game=OGRE MINIATURES
MinSize=500
Items=none
LdrName=Commander
LdrAbbrev=Cmdr
Basis=points
Scale=100
Cost=4
Decimal=0
Round=normal
Orient=any
TweakAbbrevs=hide
Army=Army
Scenario=Scenario
PtsSingle=Point
PtsPlural=Points
PtsAbbrev=Pts
Publish
VersionMajor=2
VersionMinor=1
PatchRequired=none
AuthorName=Robert Feuillerat
AuthorEmail=R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com
LockCode=none
Stats
Att |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Rng |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Def |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Mov |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
MoM |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Siz |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 99 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Pts |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Compositions
Infantry | Inf
Armor | Arm
Ogre | Ogre
Structures | Strc
Allies | Ally
Units
Africa | Afr |0
Arabian | Ara |0
Austrailia| Aus |0
Chinese | Chi |0
Great Brit| GB |0
Nihon | Hih |0
Combine | Com |0
PanEuro | Pan |0
South Afr | SA |0
options
conflicts
tweaks
sets
items
end

This is so cool....

Thanks

Robert

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:41:51 -0700
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
Subject: RE: well that was short...

Just looking through your def file, and noticed a few things. Under
units, you list what appear to be the various forces you can have -
that's what different races are for. The units category is for defining
characteristics that are shared by a type of unit - perhaps wheeled,
hover, GEV, foot? Or vehicle, infantry, ogre? Until you know what you
need, I'd use the same things you defined for compositions (although
you'll need new abbreviations). For example, everything that has that
#/# movement should probably be a different category than the ones with
a single number. That way, you can define special attributes that apply
only to them.

Mathias Gehl
mgehl@cox.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Feuillerat [mailto:R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:43 AM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] well that was short...

Ok, that was short...
I have two problems that I can seem to find in the manual.

The stat for Movement can have a single number or a #/# combo. How do I
set
it up in the def/text file to permit that?

The stat for Movement Mode is an abbreviation, GEV, HOV, TNK... How do I
set
to permit that?

here's the new text file...

~Ogre Definition file
~--------------------
General
Game=OGRE MINIATURES
MinSize=500
Items=none
LdrName=Commander
LdrAbbrev=Cmdr
Basis=points
Scale=100
Cost=4
Decimal=0
Round=normal
Orient=any
TweakAbbrevs=hide
Army=Army
Scenario=Scenario
PtsSingle=Point
PtsPlural=Points
PtsAbbrev=Pts
Publish
VersionMajor=2
VersionMinor=1
PatchRequired=none
AuthorName=Robert Feuillerat
AuthorEmail=R_A_Feuillerat@hotmail.com
LockCode=none
Stats
Att |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Rng |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Def |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Mov |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
MoM |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Siz |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 99 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Pts |3 | 0 | 0.0=- | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | . | . | .
Compositions
Infantry | Inf
Armor | Arm
Ogre | Ogre
Structures | Strc
Allies | Ally
Units
Africa | Afr |0
Arabian | Ara |0
Austrailia| Aus |0
Chinese | Chi |0
Great Brit| GB |0
Nihon | Hih |0
Combine | Com |0
PanEuro | Pan |0
South Afr | SA |0
options
conflicts
tweaks
sets
items
end

This is so cool....

Thanks

Robert

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:32:11 -0000
From: "terry_maltman" <terrymaltman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement

Thanks for that Simon. I nearly missed it as the mail got lost
switching between digest and individual modes.

Terry

--- In armybuilder@yahoogroups.com, "Day, Simon" <simon.day@c...>
wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> One way round this would be to create the unit based on the
drummers rather
> than the drum. They could have the usual 2:2 size statistic, with
the drum
> being treated as an item rather than a child unit (or model).
>
> This means that the drum is present on the roster, and has its rules
> available, but does not count as a character model.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon Day
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry Maltman [SMTP:terrymaltman@h...]
> > Sent: 30 June 2003 08:39
> > To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [AB] Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
> >
> >
> > I have taken over maintenance of the AB files for the GW Lord of
the Rings
> >
> > games from Steven Cox. I have nearly completed incorporating the
new
> > supplement but GW have just thrown in a revised rule for Elven
Blades.
> >
> > I need a little help with a couple of points. Firstly how do I
get the
> > files
> > distributed? I believe that they need uploading to the ABFiles
group.
> >
> > Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two
drummers.
> > It
> > compares closely to a war machine with crew. I have made the drum
a unit
> > and
> > it takes an option for drummers which in turn calls a unit of two
goblins.
> >
> > This gives me three models. However the drum does not count
towards the
> > total model count for the force. How can I make the drum not be
counted?
> >
> > Terry




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 08:32:19 +0100
From: "Terry Maltman" <terrymaltman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement

Sorry to reply to my own post but I remembered why I discounted that option.
The drum needs a profile so the 'drum' option would call a 'drum' unit and
back to a model count of 1.

Terry


>From: "terry_maltman" <terrymaltman@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
>To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [AB] Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
>Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:32:11 -0000
>
>Thanks for that Simon. I nearly missed it as the mail got lost
>switching between digest and individual modes.
>
>Terry
>
>--- In armybuilder@yahoogroups.com, "Day, Simon" <simon.day@c...>
>wrote:
> > Hi Terry,
> >
> > One way round this would be to create the unit based on the
>drummers rather
> > than the drum. They could have the usual 2:2 size statistic, with
>the drum
> > being treated as an item rather than a child unit (or model).
> >
> > This means that the drum is present on the roster, and has its rules
> > available, but does not count as a character model.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Simon Day
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Terry Maltman [SMTP:terrymaltman@h...]
> > > Sent: 30 June 2003 08:39
> > > To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [AB] Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
> > >
> > >
> > > I have taken over maintenance of the AB files for the GW Lord of
>the Rings
> > >
> > > games from Steven Cox. I have nearly completed incorporating the
>new
> > > supplement but GW have just thrown in a revised rule for Elven
>Blades.
> > >
> > > I need a little help with a couple of points. Firstly how do I
>get the
> > > files
> > > distributed? I believe that they need uploading to the ABFiles
>group.
> > >
> > > Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two
>drummers.
> > > It
> > > compares closely to a war machine with crew. I have made the drum
>a unit
> > > and
> > > it takes an option for drummers which in turn calls a unit of two
>goblins.
> > >
> > > This gives me three models. However the drum does not count
>towards the
> > > total model count for the force. How can I make the drum not be
>counted?
> > >
> > > Terry
>
>
>
>
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