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I'm not sure if this also occurs in text version output, but some
items are shown duplicate (maybe the difference is one space or similar). Example can be seen at: http://www.geocities.com/kezerk3/BloodAngels.htm Bolt Pistol appears twice, with no visible difference (maybe an extra space at the end?) Power fist with two different descriptions (says pretty much the same) Power weapon, also no visible difference. As this is just a cosmetic issue, it's prolly not high on your priority list = Thanks for the effort put in this, I really appreciate it, Kez. --------------------------- Matti "Kezerk" Mäkäräinen |
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This happens to be due to the way the 40K data files are implemented and is
not a bug in Army Builder. Within the footnotes, Army Builder distinguishes between options (e.g. Power Weapon) based on their unique id. If more than one unit utilizes the EXACT same option, then Army Builder throws out the duplicates. However, it is possible to have multiple DIFFERENT options that happen to have the same displayed name. This is necessary when the same basic option can be selected under substantially different conditions. Such is the case within the 40K files. Since these options are distinct within AB, there is no reliable way for AB to simply assume that they should be treated as the same. For example, you'll note that the two Power Fist options have different description text. Which one should AB throw out? It can't know, so it plays it safe and includes both. Correcting this would require a fair amount of work within the data files. Colen would have to be the one who makes the call on this one. As you pointed out, it's a cosmetic issue and of no substantial impact, so I would get it's going to get low priority from Colen. Maybe he'll address it this Summer when school is out and he has nothing better to do. :-O <slap> Ow! OK, I deserved that one from Colen. Just joking! :-) Hope this explanation helps, Rob At 10:44 AM 4/20/01 +0000, you wrote: >I'm not sure if this also occurs in text version output, but some >items are shown duplicate (maybe the difference is one space or >similar). >Example can be seen at: >http://www.geocities.com/kezerk3/BloodAngels.htm > >Bolt Pistol appears twice, with no visible difference (maybe an extra >space at the end?) >Power fist with two different descriptions (says pretty much the same) >Power weapon, also no visible difference. > >As this is just a cosmetic issue, it's prolly not high on your >priority list = > >Thanks for the effort put in this, I really appreciate it, > > Kez. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (650) 726-9689 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com |
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> Correcting this would require a fair amount of work within the data files.
Doesnt each weapon have a unique abbreviation for it?? Why not use that abbreviation (in an array) as a check to avoid duplication on the roster?? ie :- Squad #1 has a missile launcher in it, so does squad #2. AB notices the missile launcher in squad #1 and includes the info for it at the end of the roster and the abbrviation in the array. It then checks squad #2 and notices that the missile launcher is already present in the array and thus misses out repeating the item description again. Jimi FREE 40k card scenery - http://www.crosswinds.net/~astronomican/ 40k3 - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/40k3/ 40k Fluff - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/40k_fluff/ Astartes - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/adeptus_astartes/ Grey Knights - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greyknightchapter/ Imperial Guard - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imperial-guard/ Sons Of Russ - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sons-of-russ/ Unforgiven - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unforgiven/ VDR - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gw-vdr/ |
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At 07:54 AM 4/21/01 +0100, you wrote:
> > Correcting this would require a fair amount of work within the data files. > >Doesnt each weapon have a unique abbreviation for it?? Why not use that >abbreviation (in an array) as a check to avoid duplication on the roster?? >ie :- > >Squad #1 has a missile launcher in it, so does squad #2. AB notices the >missile launcher in squad #1 and includes the info for it at the end of the >roster and the abbrviation in the array. It then checks squad #2 and notices >that the missile launcher is already present in the array and thus misses >out repeating the item description again. AB already DOES this. I think you missed my point. In the case of a Power Fist, it can be taken by numerous different units. The conditions under which it can/can't be taken, and the implications upon OTHER optoins by taking it, will vary between different units. Therefore, the only way to model this properly is to have DIFFERENT options for Power Fist that have differing behaviors that correspond to the correct conditions. Each of these options has the same DISPLAY name, so it appears to the user that they are the same, while they are very different under the covers. It is these DIFFERENT options that AB can't distinguish between. After this explanation, please RE-READ my last post. Hopefully, it will all be clear this time. You might also want to take a look at the marines.40k data file. You'll find numerous options with the exact same display name, yet each has VERY different behaviors. Each is used under different circumstances within the data files and has a different unique id. They just look the same to the user. Hope this helps, Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (650) 726-9689 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com |
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One fine day in the middle of the night, Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
got up to write: >This happens to be due to the way the 40K data files are implemented and is >not a bug in Army Builder. --8<---- > Which one should AB throw out? It >can't know, so it plays it safe and includes both. > >Correcting this would require a fair amount of work within the data files. >Colen would have to be the one who makes the call on this one. As you >pointed out, it's a cosmetic issue and of no substantial impact, so I would >get it's going to get low priority from Colen. The problem is that while there's a large database of the option footnotes in base.40k (where I keep everything to do with multiple armies), before I started that I also put one in the Space Marine file, in the Ork file, and in the Dark Eldar file IIRC. I haven't bothered to ever consolidate them, because it sounds too much like hard work and it's working fine right now Except in the few bits you mention. I'll see which bits are causing the problem and fix them if possible. >Maybe he'll address it this >Summer when school is out and he has nothing better to do. :-O Nothing better to do than go back to working full-time on writing test suites for DSP chips, you mean? ><slap> > >Ow! OK, I deserved that one from Colen. Just joking! :-) The Evil Flying Drones have been dispatched to administer appropriate punishment. Do not leave the house. -- 'Not Colin' McAlister | License to Skrill Email: demandred@skrill.org | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today! -----------------------------+------------------------------------ "Dovie'andi se tovya sagain" - Robert Jordan's Wheel Of Time |
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