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Tekkmage
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Old August 26th, 2017, 06:53 PM
I am trying to use two setting but the precludes are affecting objects i want to use. Can the precludes be ignored?

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Old August 26th, 2017, 07:15 PM
There are two good reasons to preclude stuff.

First reason: you duplicate the precluded item and add custom things to it (for instance, a weak race may not have access to the BRAWNY edge, so you create a custom version of it that prevents a given race from having access).

Second reason: the precluded items are thought to not fit in the setting. An example of this is that sci-fi settings tend to kill off all of the arcane magic stuff.

Anyhow, if you go through and delete the preclude definitions, the worst thing that *should* happen is that you will not be certain about which setting is providing a given hindrance, edge, or whatever. So backup the USR file you are going to edit, and go crazy removing the precludes.

Also, I've got a mere 20 or so hours of hacking around inside the editor. Be sure to back that stuff up 'cause I could be wrong.

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Old August 27th, 2017, 04:27 AM
Precludes are often integral to a specific setting file and if you are activating two setting but a preclude is causing an error in one of them the first scenario Topdecker mentioned is the more likely scenario, and in that scenario removing the preclude is going to cause some major dependency problems of their own. We have no good way of being able to truly mix and match data files because of that very reason.

You'll have to go through each and every error you are getting and see if you can resolve them, usually you'll need to modify whatever depends on the original version of something to point to the new version of that thing that the other data file uses. Backup your files, though, because if you ever wanted to use those files standalone again you'll need the original versions because your modified versions will now be interdependent on each other.

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Old August 27th, 2017, 05:17 PM
Thanks. I am aware of the reasons why. I just deleted what i didn't want but just hoped there was a way to turn it off in case one waned to make their own setting.

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Old August 27th, 2017, 05:59 PM
The fastest way is to edit the USR file with a text editor. They appear to be near the end of the file. Not quite 1-click, but that will be a lot faster than clearing it out an element at a time in the HL editor.

The lines will look something like....

<preclude id="skWeirdSci" source="MB2"/>

Notepad++ handles them nicely.

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