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jmucchiello
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Old April 1st, 2018, 07:27 AM
The Library would be a great feature if you could copy stuff in it to the current character directly. But it would be a killer feature if you copy stuff in the current character to library. I've only been using HL for a few months and I can't count the times I've wanted to move a power in or out of an array or similar structure and the only way to do that is to delete it and recreate it in the new location. With a functional library, this would be much easier.



(Or have I missed some obvious piece of user interface that already does this?)
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Old April 1st, 2018, 12:08 PM
Yeah... that's been a longtime request. Back in 2E, we were told it was a technical limitation. I don't know if that might have changed with 3E, which did restructure a bit.
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Old April 2nd, 2018, 08:54 PM
That sounds like a huge omission from the original design discussions. They export the data as XML, they import the data as XML, so they should be able to copy/move powers up and down the XML tree.
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Old April 3rd, 2018, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jmucchiello View Post
That sounds like a huge omission from the original design discussions. They export the data as XML, they import the data as XML, so they should be able to copy/move powers up and down the XML tree.
If you look at the bare XML in a character file (not the export XML), it's not that cut and dried. Hero Lab is a generic system, which means the XML for the character is basically a series of data structures that link to each other, not a set of nearly nested items.
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Old April 5th, 2018, 07:34 AM
A cursory glance at the XML shows there are container objects. Moving stuff between containers should be doable. But I haven't done a deep dive. Still, they can display stuff pretty, they should be able to transform the XML too.
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Old April 5th, 2018, 06:41 PM
Huh. They did clean it up a bit. Once you handle internal references, it could potentially work.

Code:
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                                    <pick thing="poSenAnalT" index="216" batchindex="186" refcount="0" fieldcount="3" source="pwOptions">
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                                        <field id="usrChosen1"></field>
                                        <field id="usrChosen2"></field>
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                                    <pick thing="poSenDir" index="221" batchindex="189" uniqueness="unique" fieldcount="2" source="pwOptions" default="yes">
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                                    <pick thing="poSenLow" index="214" batchindex="184" uniqueness="unique" fieldcount="2" source="pwOptions" default="yes">
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                        <pick thing="PowerHelp" index="204" batchindex="177" fieldcount="1" bootstrap="yes">
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                            <field id="pwhName" text="Tremorsense"></field>
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                        <pick thing="poSenAcu" index="207" batchindex="179" refcount="0" fieldcount="3" source="pwOptions">
                            <field id="domDomain" text="Tremorsense"></field>
                            <field id="usrChosen1"></field>
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                        <pick thing="poSenDang" index="209" batchindex="181" refcount="0" fieldcount="3" source="pwOptions">
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                            <field id="usrChosen1"></field>
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                        <pick thing="poSenRange" index="206" batchindex="178" refcount="0" fieldcount="3" source="pwOptions">
                            <field id="domDomain" text="Touch"></field>
                            <field id="usrChosen1"></field>
                            <field id="usrChosen2"></field>
                        </pick>
                    </container>
                </gizmo>
                <field id="pwActive" user="1."></field>
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            <pick thing="pwSenses" index="211" batchindex="183" refcount="0" fieldcount="1" source="mePowers" foreign="yes">
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                            <field id="pwhName" text="Mole Senses"></field>
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                        <pick thing="poSenAcu" index="223" batchindex="191" refcount="0" fieldcount="3" source="pwOptions">
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                        <pick thing="poSenAnalT" index="216" batchindex="186" refcount="0" fieldcount="3" source="pwOptions">
                            <field id="domDomain" text="Touch"></field>
                            <field id="usrChosen1"></field>
                            <field id="usrChosen2"></field>
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                        <pick thing="poSenDir" index="221" batchindex="189" uniqueness="unique" fieldcount="2" source="pwOptions" default="yes">
                            <reference />
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                        </pick>
                        <pick thing="poSenDist" index="222" batchindex="190" uniqueness="unique" fieldcount="2" source="pwOptions" default="yes">
                            <reference />
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                        </pick>
                        <pick thing="poSenLow" index="214" batchindex="184" uniqueness="unique" fieldcount="2" source="pwOptions" default="yes">
                            <reference />
                            <field id="usrChosen1"></field>
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                        </pick>
                    </container>
                </gizmo>
                <field id="pwActive" user="1."></field>
            </pick>
That's fairly comprehensible.
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