World is Square house rules

Putting BonusFor.? tags on the hero does not make any sense to me. How would HL know which class or classes the tag was meant for. I am pretty sure you should be assiging the BonusFor.? tag to the class itself.


Also instead of even using "BonusFor.?" each feat makes a tag called fInclude.? where ? is the Unique ID of the feat. So if I wanted to allow the choice of the Dodge feat as a bonus feat to a class I could just assign the tag fInclude.fDodge to the class.

Well, I was looking at the scripting in the custom ability that defines the two-weapon fighting for rangers, where it said this:


I guess my misunderstanding arose from interpreting the comment "we add them to ourself" to mean the hero. I take it that it actually refers to the custom ability, which is attached to the class?

Even after working on it for a couple of years, I have to confess that my understanding of Hero Lab's data model is shaky at best. Most of the time I just go look up something that does something vaguely like what I'm trying to do and try to figure out how it does it. In this case, that didn't work out so well.

Thanks for the code, Shadow -- it worked very nicely. I still need to figure out how to mark them as bonus feats so they ignore pre-reqs like the fighter levels that the paladin doesn't have, but otherwise it's working.

EDIT: Well, I've gotten it to quit complaining about the missing fighter levels by adding this code to the mechanic:


That prevents errors after the feat has been chosen. But it still greys them out in the list of feats. I'm a little surprised that the "counts as fighter levels" bit wasn't implemented in the archetype. All of the variant feats in World is Square that require fighter levels are set up to call #featprereqlevelcount[Fighter] -- I guess I thought there'd be a select box or an eval script or similar that says "Levels of this count as fighter" that that macro would pick up on. But I guess not.

Oh well. If I want to make those feats appear to be valid choices again, do I need to tag the hero as being fighter level X? Or assign some tag to the feats themselves before they're selected? I'm not sure how to get at a feat before it's been picked ...

Im struggling
I found the update and loaded it but its not showing up as an option for my house rules at the bottom of the choices is there something else i need to do?

Virtue said:

Im struggling
I found the update and loaded it but its not showing up as an option for my house rules at the bottom of the choices is there something else i need to do?

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Did you follow all the instructions here? Maybe you "loaded" the file into the wrong system folder. Did you get any errors when you started Pathfinder, after downloading the files?

I saw someone else post that the reinstalled hero labs and it worked and that’s what I did and it worked out.

Is there a way to do customized monsters where you select the skills and feats for the monster? In standard hero labs there is just a pull down and a button to push. I really need this if I’m going to use this ruleset.

I'm glad you got the original problem worked out.

As for customizing a monster, I'm not 100% clear what you want to do, but here are a couple of things that might be tripping you up.

1) Once you have imported a monster in the encounter builder, Press Ctrl+K to open the hero configuration. Ensure that "Enable all World is Square Rules" is checked.

2) Ensure that "NPCs pay normal feat taxes" is NOT checked. Either that, or change the monster from an NPC to a PC by changing its type on the left side of the configuration screen. If you leave it as an NPC and also leave the "NPCs pay normal feat taxes" rule enabled, then the World is Square adjustments will not apply.

3) On the Background tab, there is a gear icon next to the race name. Click it. It should open a dialog that looks like this:



Check the boxes for all the things you want to change. For example, if you want change the monster's feats to a completely custom selection, check "Customize Racial Feats". It will remove all the automatic ones and let you pick any feats the monster qualifies for, as normal, including those from the World is Square rules.

Ditto for skills.

I hope that helps. If not, can you describe the issue you're having in more detail please?

When I check use all the rules that customize icon wasn’t present but if I select one at a time it seems to work. I’m going to play with it more today.

Well, that's weird. As far as I know I've never done anything in the WiS rules that should affect that icon at all. I wonder if it could be some kind of interaction with other third party packages?

That icon is only visible for NPCs and minions - not if your monster is a PC, so double-check your settings for this character.

That might of been my mistake.

Trouble with ipad

Having Issues with having the mod work on my iPad. I can use it on my pc just fine, but when I try to open it up on the iPad app, it won’t work...

Did you remember to install the mod on the iPad as well? It needs to be installed in both places.

Unfortunately I don't have an iPad myself, so I can't give you step-by-step instructions, but it should be broadly similar to installing it on the desktop client.

Any plan to update the mod to the current feat tax version?

I've looked at it, and the latest version is rather more extensive than the previous ones. It'd be quite a lot of work to implement. I built most of a to-do list at one point and my motivation petered out when it approached 70-ish major changes before I made it three quarters of the way through the document.

So ... maybe? It hasn't been high on my list of priorities ...

The later PDF version is so elaborate compared to the original that I haven't actually seen it used in any games. Part of the appeal of the first version is that it mostly just works as a list of bonus feats (and even that could probably be simplified further if somebody else were to make their own version).

If you develop the more extensive update, will you be keeping the current version available? I like the WiS 1.5 ruleset but the Yavmir campaign setting ruleset is a bit much for my table.

The blog indicated Precise Shot replaces it as a prerequisite for further archery feats. Was this was applied in your HL update? If not, this would make other feats immediately available in HL without needing Precise Shot (i.e. Far Shot, Disrupting Shot, Shot on the Run, Rapid Shot, etc). I understand this can be a non-issue by a observant GM ensuring their player takes Precise Shot before the other feats, but HL is setup to show what is allowed and what is not.

If I wind up doing the full Yavmir version, I'll keep the blog version up also so people can choose whichever they prefer.

No, I missed the bit about Precise Shot being added as a pre-requisite for other archery feats. Adding that would require coding up new variants of quite a few of them, and I have to wonder if it's really worth it to do so. Even if it's not technically required, everybody's going to take it anyway, because trying to do archery without it is much, much harder.

It's awesome to watch some of these discussions, btw. Y'all are amazing! Thanks so much for being great forum citizens!