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nogoodscallywag
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Old February 4th, 2012, 06:28 PM
My character has a composite short bow for Strength. It is also a plus 5 magic item.

BAB is +18.

Bow is also masterwork.

The first attack should be this, am I correct? :

Bow magical bonus 5 + mwk bonus 1 (not added due to stacking) + BAB 18

Shouldn't the bonus for first attack be +23?

The software shows it at +22...

I must be missing something...
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Old February 4th, 2012, 06:41 PM
I am trying to figure out an issue.

My character has ST of 20, giving +5 attack bonus.

Has Manyshot, Rapid Shot, and Point Blank.

A Magical Composite Shortbow +5, BAB +18 w/strength.

Attack bonus with this bow should be:

BAB 18 + 5 magic = 23 CORRECT?

The program shows it as being +22...
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Old February 5th, 2012, 01:11 AM
The composite bow allows you to add your strength bonus to damage, but you still use the Dex bonus to attack. Is your Dex Mod +4 perhaps?
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Old February 5th, 2012, 07:54 AM
DX is 21/23 with gloves adding +2 to dexterity...making it the modifier now of +6.

So shouldn't the totals look like this:

Composite Bow, magical 5 + BAB 18 + DX mod 6 + STR mod 5.

In reality, these don't stack, so shouldn't it look like:

DX mod 6 +BAB 18= 24? It is showing it as 23 for the first attack.

It must be computing the many shot, rapid shot, and point blank and assuming the character will be using these every time for a full attack.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 08:12 AM
For composite bows i think it always uses the STR for the damage.

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Old February 5th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Take a look at things which can reduce your effective DX / DX bonus: encumbrance? Toggle the No Encumbrance and / or No Coin Weight rules in the Character Configuration window, and see if it does anything.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Clicked on no coins (don't have any listed anyway) and no encumbrance...still says +23 for first shot... it must simply be assuming the character will take his full round action using his feats of Rapid and Manyshot...
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Old February 5th, 2012, 01:19 PM
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Clicked on no coins (don't have any listed anyway) and no encumbrance...still says +23 for first shot... it must simply be assuming the character will take his full round action using his feats of Rapid and Manyshot...
Rapid Shot is on the "In-Play" tab so you can turn that on or off. Manyshot has no affect on bonuses to hit. It simply adds more arrows.

The numbers you have listed seem to be over all over the place. Providing the FULL info for the character would help allot. So taking the info from all your posts and putting them together I get the following:
  • BAB +18 assume a level 18 fighter.
  • +5 Composite Shortbow - Assuming mighty 5 as you have a 20Str.
  • 23 Dex score.
Armor encumbrance has no effect on Ranged attacks so that is not a concern.

This gives the following:
+18 BAB +6 Dex +5 Bow = +29 to hit
Full Attack: +29/+24/+19/+14
Damage would be 1d6+10

So your +22 is off by 7 points. I just built a level 18 fighter with the above stats and HL shows all the correct values.

Things that can lower your Attack value:
1) Your not proficient with the armor you are wearing.
2) The bow is a Mighty 6+ so for each point of difference is a -2 to hit.
3) Some spell effects or manually put in Adjustments on the "Adjust" tab.

Hopefully the above points you in the right direction.

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Old February 9th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Character is actually a Rogue 17 Fighter 1.

Dex is 21...modified to 22 with +2 Dexterity gloves.

Wearing leaf armor, backpack not full.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 11:06 AM
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Character is actually a Rogue 17 Fighter 1.
Then your BAB is only +13 not +18. See the Rogue table.

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Dex is 21...modified to 22 with +2 Dexterity gloves.
21 Dex plus +2 Dex Gloves gives 23 Dex not 22. But the bonus is the same for 22 or 23 which is +6.

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Wearing leaf armor, backpack not full.
I guess this is trying to say your not encumbered? That is what I will assume here.

So with the above info we come out to:
+13 BAB +6 Dex +5 Magic Bow = +24 to hit

I am going to go with either you have Rapid Shot turned on the "In-Play" tab or you don't have the correct Str to use the Composite Bow. Both of these would give the -2 to hit.

P.S. - Will mention that its always easier if you provide the full character or .por file actually.

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