Psionics

[tooley1chris]

I see the multiclass idea but don't see anything worth a wuzard losing high level spells for. It's got a couple neat tricks but any spell caster outshines it. Yes?

[tooley1chris]

Hmmm...eldritch knight / mystic...

[tooley1chris]

Not sure why they decided INT should be a prime stat. Monks channel Ki (inner power) using WIS. Inner power...
I could see a Monk multiclass if WIS were the prime stat.
That might make it worthwhile for a few levels of dip.

[Mergon]

The class shines best with just a few levels atm. 3 levels in the Order of the Immortal gives you Martial weapons and All Armors. The Celerity Disciple is great for initiative and resistance to surprise. The 3rd eye for detection abilities like tremor sense and Blind sense.

Personally, I find the Wizard lacklust at higher levels. I have always loved the wizard in all versions of D&D except 4th ed. They took too much away for the ability to have a spell book. Between Concentration, lack of rituals, badly designed spells, lack of casting ability at 6th level and higher, I find the wizard as boring to play as a 4th ed wizard.

A multi-class wizard-mystic put some fun back into the wizard.

[Hansmo]

Originally Posted by Mergon

Personally, I find the Wizard lacklust at higher levels. I have always loved the wizard in all versions of D&D except 4th ed. They took too much away for the ability to have a spell book. Between Concentration, lack of rituals, badly designed spells, lack of casting ability at 6th level and higher, I find the wizard as boring to play as a 4th ed wizard.

I wholeheartedly agree with you about the wizard in 5th Edition. I never played 4e. But the compounded result of restricting your ability to have multiple buffs up with concentration, drastically reducing your overall number of spells you can cast per day, especially higher level spells, and then linking improved effects to expending the already in short supply higher level slots leaves them feeling exceptionally hamstrung to me.

On the upside it is nice to have unlimited attack cantrips. But generally speaking as you get to higher levels you should be able to unleash punishing salvos of actual spells and not rely on cantrips that don't quite match melee attacks of the more physical classes.

[Mergon]

Personally, I am glad for something else that uses Intelligence. It is one of the most useless stats currently in the game (except for the wizard of course). There are 4 classes that use wisdom (cleric, druid, ranger, and monk). For intelligence you only have the wizard, Fighter (Eldritch Knight) and the rouge (Arcane trickster).

[Aaron]

5th edition barbarian stuffs wizard into a locker, walks off. "Who uses INT these days? NEEERRDD!"

[Mergon]

See what I mean.

Anyways, 2 of my group, plus myself, play Mystics, and multi-class mystics. Only myself and 1 other play wizards. The rest play melee classes only. No one wants to play a cleric.

[daplunk]

I think i read somewhere that the new book coming out in November might have Psionics. I have no idea if there's any truth to that though.

[Mergon]

daplunk:

Here is hoping the rumor mill speaks true.