M&M 3e set same as DCA?

[daddystabz]

I knew there was a beta set out from Lone Wolf for Hero Lab but I thought the beta was for DC Adventures. I am reading here it is Mutants & Masterminds 3e. Is this exactly the same thing or 2 different beta sets with the same rules?

I thought I read that DCA would not get supported by Hero Lab due to licensing issues with DC Comics but M&M 3e would, since they are essentially the same game system.

[Shadowchaser]

Originally Posted by daddystabz

I knew there was a beta set out from Lone Wolf for Hero Lab but I thought the beta was for DC Adventures. I am reading here it is Mutants & Masterminds 3e. Is this exactly the same thing or 2 different beta sets with the same rules?

I thought I read that DCA would not get supported by Hero Lab due to licensing issues with DC Comics but M&M 3e would, since they are essentially the same game system.

DC Adventures uses the M&M 3E rules. The only difference is that you won't get the DC Comics characters or any of their gear with the license. You can always BUILD them yourself, using Hero Lab.

[daddystabz]

Exactly....I know DCA and M&M 3e are exactly the same. My question was basically if Lone Wolf is basically only doing a M&M 3e release and we the customers just end up using it for both games. I seem to remember reading this was due to licensing considerations with DC Comics.

I can't wait to get the set regardless.

[Shadowchaser]

Originally Posted by daddystabz

Exactly....I know DCA and M&M 3e are exactly the same. My question was basically if Lone Wolf is basically only doing a M&M 3e release and we the customers just end up using it for both games. I seem to remember reading this was due to licensing considerations with DC Comics.

I can't wait to get the set regardless.

From what Colen has already said when people ask this, I think the DC License is really not something they plan to shoot for. If it were, however, it would probably be sold as an add-on, like the Ultimate Powers material from M&M 2E.

Now, I spoke to Colen at Gen-con, and it sounds like the pricing for those add-ons is going to be broken up into smaller updates for less money, but I'm not 100% sure about that. From a logistical standpoint, I'm pretty certain that they don't plan to do 2 identical rulesets and charge for both. So, if you're interested in grabbing the 3E beta (I've been using it almost a week, now), I'd say you're pretty safe in doing so.

[rob]

Shadowchaser nailed it. Hero Lab is focused on the mechanics, and the DCA material is the identical mechanics to M&M3E. So we're going to provide M&M3E support, which also doubles as DCA support, and avoid all the hassles with a license involving DC. The only thing you won't get with this approach is all of the DCA iconics, but those can be readily constructed with the M&M3E data files - and will likely be shared amongst users.

[Shadowchaser]

Thanks for the affirmation, Rob!