World is Square house rules - Page 13

direinsomniac · December 6th, 2019, 10:11 AM

This may be a one off kind of issue, but there are some weapons that were initially viable option in the normal Weapon Focus feat that were never assigned to a weapon group and thus cannot be selected when the Group Weapon Feats is enabled.

I am referring to those "weapons" that are magic or spell-based; i.e. rays and kinetic blasts.

Minous · December 6th, 2019, 10:25 AM

I know rays are select-able, Not sure about blasts though.

wdmartin · December 6th, 2019, 04:19 PM

Rays are covered. There's a separate feat called Weapon Focus (ray) for that.

However, you're correct: Kineticist blasts are not currently supported. I overlooked them. And here's a relevant bit of FAQ:

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Certain special abilities (for instance rays, kinetic blasts, and mystic bolts) can specifically be selected with feats like Weapon Focus and Improved Critical. They still aren’t considered a type of weapon for other rules; they are not part of any weapon group and don’t qualify for the effects of fighter weapon training, warpriest sacred weapon, magus arcane pool, paladin divine bond, or any other such ability.

Furthermore, although ordinarily you wouldn't have access to things like Weapon Specialization and Greater Weapon Focus due to not having any fighter levels, the Elemental Annihilator grants you those as selectable bonus feats.

Yay, complications.

I'm tempted to just make a new weapon group called Kinetic Blasts and call it good, even though that does not honor the FAQ written above. That's probably the most straightforward solution. Otherwise it might take a custom feat chain that's just like the Weapon Focus feat chain, only just for kinetic blasts. I'd really rather not do that. It's clunky.

Let me mull it over a bit and get back to you.

schizzo · April 17th, 2020, 06:47 AM

anyone have a current, working link to the data files for this? The posted links all go to dead pages.

wdmartin · 05:42 PM

Say what now?

As far as I can tell, the site is still up. Where are these dead links?

EDIT: Also, why did I not get a notification of this response until today, when it was apparently posted nearly three weeks ago?

TheIronGolem · May 6th, 2020, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmartin

Say what now?

As far as I can tell, the site is still up. Where are these dead links?

EDIT: Also, why did I not get a notification of this response until today, when it was apparently posted nearly three weeks ago?

I think the forums are set to require manual approval for a new person's first post, and LW is rather shorthanded at the moment.

wdmartin · May 6th, 2020, 11:09 PM

Ah, that would account for it.

Krothos · May 7th, 2020, 07:00 AM

Possible BUG #1: The WiS rule with finesse is not applying to touch attacks. I have a Cleric 5 with a 10 Str and 14 Dex. This should give him a normal +3 melee touch and +5 ranged touch. With WiS finesse set to Dex, both should adjust to +5.

My understanding is that touch attacks = natural attacks = finesse can apply.

Possible BUG #2: Same cleric is carry a shield. The shield's ACP penalty is applying to finesse attacks, as per normal Weapon Finesse feat. Was this intentional?

wdmartin · May 7th, 2020, 05:23 PM

Krothos, could you post the .por file for this character so I can take a look at what's going on?

Krothos · May 7th, 2020, 09:24 PM

Attached is my character. Thank you for looking into this.

direinsomniac Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 106 December 6th, 2019, 10:11 AM	This may be a one off kind of issue, but there are some weapons that were initially viable option in the normal Weapon Focus feat that were never assigned to a weapon group and thus cannot be selected when the Group Weapon Feats is enabled. I am referring to those "weapons" that are magic or spell-based; i.e. rays and kinetic blasts.
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Minous Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 830 December 6th, 2019, 10:25 AM	I know rays are select-able, Not sure about blasts though.
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schizzo Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1 April 17th, 2020, 06:47 AM	anyone have a current, working link to the data files for this? The posted links all go to dead pages.
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wdmartin Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 240 May 6th, 2020, 05:38 PM	Say what now? As far as I can tell, the site is still up. Where are these dead links? EDIT: Also, why did I not get a notification of this response until today, when it was apparently posted nearly three weeks ago? Last edited by wdmartin; May 6th, 2020 at 05:42 PM.
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wdmartin Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 240 May 6th, 2020, 11:09 PM	Ah, that would account for it.
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wdmartin Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 240 May 7th, 2020, 05:23 PM	Krothos, could you post the .por file for this character so I can take a look at what's going on?
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