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I bought a copy of the Hero Lab at Gencon this weekend. I have it installed and am trying to tweak it by creating a custom character class.
I have a player who has a Beguiler in my Pathfinder campaign. Beguiler is not a class in the Pathfinder system so I would like to "build" or copy the beguiler class from 3.5 rules set and make some changes to reflect the Pathfinder rules, such as skills and what have you. How do I get to the create custom class screen? Is there a way to import my created custom beguiler class to my Pathfinder licensed Hero Lab? |
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Hi all -
Glad I saw this as I was asking something similiar as to what functions HL has in general. Do you have to buy the 3.5 version as well as the Pathfinder version to be able to do this - bringing in a beguiler? Isn't a beguiler not an SRD class - thus that means that fans have created this dataset. If this is the case, and you can combine the 3.5 and Pathfinder datasets that certainly would answer my questions in a previous post. Be Well. Be Well Dataset'd. Theocrat Issak Theocrat Issak Las Vegas Lodge Gaming Agent PFSTheocrat@gmail.com |
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You do *not* need to buy the d20 data files separately. However, there won't be a direct port option for d20 custom content to Pathfinder content. The old d20 data files have been substantially overhauled and tailored for use with Pathfinder, rendering them incompatible. The reason for this was to ensure that we can readily evolve the Pathfinder data files over time as the game system itself evolves, without having to worry about all the baggage from the old d20 files.
As a result, custom content created for d20 will need to be re-created for Pathfinder. Of course, once it's done for d20, redoing it for Pathfinder should be pretty quick and painless. :-) |
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Thank you for this answer Rob.
I've asked in several forums - here, ENWorld and Paizo about that issue. So because anything by WotC that isn't in the SRD, like the beguiler would be part of a d20 data set but that doesn't work with Pathfinder Data set - can it be copied and edited? Thus if the beguiler has a d4 (I don't recall off hand) we can easily edit it to d6, as well as removing and adding skills. How do we find out if non-SRD or OGL aspects from other game companies have been done in the basic d20 data set? Like AEG's Warlords Summoner? Will the OGL/Pathfinder Compatibility License works from Tome of Secrets be added to the Pathfinder data set? Or is this something that fans have to add? I ask these because of what my players are playing, but also because as a DM I want to be able to add or edit Major NPC's. Additionally, how is Psionics set to work with Pathfinder? I am currently running Second Darkness and with a Psionics PC, I'd like to have a couple of the Drow Wizards be Psionicists? I'm OK with having to run a standard 3.5 Drow Psionicist, but modifying it to fit the d6 and skills would be preferred. I appreciate the answers and understanding in helping me decide on whether HL will work for my needs. Theocrat Issak Theocrat Issak Las Vegas Lodge Gaming Agent PFSTheocrat@gmail.com |
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From what I've read on the Paizo forums, they're still unsure exactly how to introduce psionics into the Pathfinder universe - some players really like the "power points" mechanic, some players hate it, and some just don't like the idea of psionics altogether. Until they decide, we'll be supporting the standard d20 psionics stuff.
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Hi all -
Thanks for the answers. If the data sets are separate between d20/OGL and Pathfinder, I should be able to build a drow psionicist just using the XPH SRD. Even with Pathfinder not using psionics just yet, we should assume usability with existing psionics. Plus, Dreamscarred Press will likely make a Pathfinderized Psionics aspect. That and I use Psionics Unbound (more like an errata'd psionics handbook, but the classes have been Arcanis-ized) with Hyperconscious. Remember in eTools, you could flip between data sets - a 3.0 data set and a 3.5 data set. You might not have been able to switch on the fly or use a 3.0 aspect in the 3.5 game, but you were able to use both. Some of this came from the editor that was fan made. Also, I don't see it on the site, but is the Pathfinder a separate purchase? Or do I get both 3.5 and Pathfinder aspects with the main purchase? For my $30, I choose d20/3.5 system. Then another $20 for Pathfinder? Or do I pay $30 for Pathfinder and then another $20 for d20/3.5? Thanks, Theocrat Issak Theocrat Issak Las Vegas Lodge Gaming Agent PFSTheocrat@gmail.com Last edited by Theocrat; August 21st, 2009 at 04:26 PM. Reason: Pricing |
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The Pathfinder and d20 systems are separate purchases. In terms of which system to activate with HeroLab and which to activate later, you won't be able to tell the difference once both are licensed.
The existing d20 files will have no trouble building a drow psionist. You'll need to make any modifications needed to swap the SRD version of the Psionic classes to the versions in your books. If you want to do so, once you've gotten the d20 files and had a chance to read through the editor documentation and play around with the editor a bit, I'll be happy to answer any specific questions you run into over on the d20 forums. |
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