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Old March 8th, 2003, 02:30 PM
Okay, CV is still crashing when I mess around with what's viewed. Specifically, I'm trying to add the rarity field to the MK inventory. I've copy and pasted the error message below. I don't know how much help it will be to you, but if we can figure out what's wrong, I greatly appreciate having a working copy.


CARDVAULT caused an invalid page fault in
module CARDVAULT.EXE at 017f:00417cf3.
Registers:
EAX=0112ab60 CS=017f EIP=00417cf3 EFLGS=00010297
EBX=0000000a SS=0187 ESP=007be5ec EBP=00000007
ECX=0112ab94 DS=0187 ESI=00528a00 FS=1277
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=0112ab94 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 42 2c 83 e8 00 74 1a 48 74 0d 48 75 14 c7 44
Stack dump:
00060010 007be64c 008c0090 00000001 00000002 0112ab60 0112ab94 00000007 008c0090 00000001 00418b9a 00940700 0041a754 004901e4 00940700 00000002

Then, I tried just moving the Rarity tag up by Release without even switching it to viewed yet and it crashed again. Here's the error message from that one:


CARDVAULT caused an invalid page fault in
module CARDVAULT.EXE at 017f:00417cf3.
Registers:
EAX=0112ab60 CS=017f EIP=00417cf3 EFLGS=00010297
EBX=0000000c SS=0187 ESP=007be5ec EBP=00000007
ECX=0112ab9c DS=0187 ESI=00528a08 FS=0e6f
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=0112ab9c GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 42 2c 83 e8 00 74 1a 48 74 0d 48 75 14 c7 44
Stack dump:
00090006 007be64c 008c0090 00000001 00000004 0112ab60 0112ab9c 00000007 008c0090 00000001 00418b9a 00940700 0041a754 004901e4 00940700 00000002

Only a slight difference, I don't know if more would help, but I can make them hapen pretty easily, so if you need more, let me know


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Old March 8th, 2003, 07:29 PM
Alright, I've just been playing around with the Star Wars TCG files, inputting inventory, messing with filters, views, column sizes, and I can't get it to crash like in MK. Then, I switched to the MK data, went to inventory, and checked the box to make Rarity viewable, and it immediately crashed. And its not just rarity, whenever I try to mess with the vies at all in MK, CV crashes. I'm beginning to think its the MK files themselves.


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From: Kyle Turner
To: Cardvault Group
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:31 PM
Subject: [CardVault] To Rob: v1.1 problems


Okay, CV is still crashing when I mess around with what's viewed. Specifically, I'm trying to add the rarity field to the MK inventory. I've copy and pasted the error message below. I don't know how much help it will be to you, but if we can figure out what's wrong, I greatly appreciate having a working copy.


CARDVAULT caused an invalid page fault in
module CARDVAULT.EXE at 017f:00417cf3.
Registers:
EAX=0112ab60 CS=017f EIP=00417cf3 EFLGS=00010297
EBX=0000000a SS=0187 ESP=007be5ec EBP=00000007
ECX=0112ab94 DS=0187 ESI=00528a00 FS=1277
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=0112ab94 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 42 2c 83 e8 00 74 1a 48 74 0d 48 75 14 c7 44
Stack dump:
00060010 007be64c 008c0090 00000001 00000002 0112ab60 0112ab94 00000007 008c0090 00000001 00418b9a 00940700 0041a754 004901e4 00940700 00000002

Then, I tried just moving the Rarity tag up by Release without even switching it to viewed yet and it crashed again. Here's the error message from that one:


CARDVAULT caused an invalid page fault in
module CARDVAULT.EXE at 017f:00417cf3.
Registers:
EAX=0112ab60 CS=017f EIP=00417cf3 EFLGS=00010297
EBX=0000000c SS=0187 ESP=007be5ec EBP=00000007
ECX=0112ab9c DS=0187 ESI=00528a08 FS=0e6f
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=0112ab9c GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 42 2c 83 e8 00 74 1a 48 74 0d 48 75 14 c7 44
Stack dump:
00090006 007be64c 008c0090 00000001 00000004 0112ab60 0112ab9c 00000007 008c0090 00000001 00418b9a 00940700 0041a754 004901e4 00940700 00000002

Only a slight difference, I don't know if more would help, but I can make them hapen pretty easily, so if you need more, let me know


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Old March 8th, 2003, 09:27 PM
I can't reproduce this in any way. Can anyone else???

It's possible that this problem is specific to a particular flavor of
Windows. What version are you using? Also, are you using the V1.3 data
files for MK?

Please tell everything you can about your environment so that we can try to
setup an equivalent system here to test this. Tell me the O/S (e.g.
Win98SE), the graphics card, the video resolution (e.g. 800x600), the
graphics display depth (8-bit, 24-bit, etc.), and anything else you can
think of that might be useful.

Until we can reproduce it on this end, it's virtually impossible for us to
actually isolate the problem and fix it.

And if anyone else is running into this problem, please let us know!!

Thanks, Rob

At 06:31 PM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Okay, CV is still crashing when I mess around with what's viewed.
>Specifically, I'm trying to add the rarity field to the MK inventory. I've
>copy and pasted the error message below. I don't know how much help it
>will be to you, but if we can figure out what's wrong, I greatly
>appreciate having a working copy.
>
>Then, I tried just moving the Rarity tag up by Release without even
>switching it to viewed yet and it crashed again. Here's the error message
>from that one:


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Old March 9th, 2003, 12:16 AM
I just had an idea on this. Load the MK files, go into Inventory, then open
the View form. Before doing anything else, click on the Reset button and
reset the view. Then click OK to save the reset state. Now exit CV.

Now go back into CV and try mucking with the Views again. If the problem is
corrected, there was somehow something bizarre being cached from before,
although I'm not sure what specifically caused it. This is just a hunch to try.

Let me know if this works,
Rob

At 11:30 PM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Alright, I've just been playing around with the Star Wars TCG files,
>inputting inventory, messing with filters, views, column sizes, and I
>can't get it to crash like in MK. Then, I switched to the MK data, went to
>inventory, and checked the box to make Rarity viewable, and it immediately
>crashed. And its not just rarity, whenever I try to mess with the vies at
>all in MK, CV crashes. I'm beginning to think its the MK files themselves.


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Old March 9th, 2003, 01:06 PM
OK, I did what you said, and everything worked fine, I was able to change them around all I wanted. So I set it up how I wanted, then closed out of CV to go back to checking my email. Well, I went out for a bit and just got back. I turned on my PC to check my mail again, and on a hunch opened up CV. I went into MK's inventory and messed with the views, and it crashed again. This is what happened last time. It seems I can change them however I want once, then if I go back later to change them, it'll start crashing.

I've played around even more with the SW TCG files trying to get them to crash in the same way, but I can't. The only thing I can think of is that its a problem with the MK files specifically, and not CV in general.

To answer your questions, I have the latest MK files, I run Win98SE, I have an S3 Virge video card, I'm running at 800x600, and I'm not sure of the depth, how do I find this out?

I'll try to crash some other datafiles doing the same thing, and if any others crash, I'll let you know.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] To Rob: v1.1 problems


I just had an idea on this. Load the MK files, go into Inventory, then open
the View form. Before doing anything else, click on the Reset button and
reset the view. Then click OK to save the reset state. Now exit CV.

Now go back into CV and try mucking with the Views again. If the problem is
corrected, there was somehow something bizarre being cached from before,
although I'm not sure what specifically caused it. This is just a hunch to try.

Let me know if this works,
Rob

At 11:30 PM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Alright, I've just been playing around with the Star Wars TCG files,
>inputting inventory, messing with filters, views, column sizes, and I
>can't get it to crash like in MK. Then, I switched to the MK data, went to
>inventory, and checked the box to make Rarity viewable, and it immediately
>crashed. And its not just rarity, whenever I try to mess with the vies at
>all in MK, CV crashes. I'm beginning to think its the MK files themselves.


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Old March 9th, 2003, 02:05 PM
Wow. I have NO idea why this might be occurring. I have not been able to
reproduce any problems with MK thus far. We'll have to try it out until
Win98 and see whether things behave differently.

Has anyone else encountered this at all???

To determine the display depth, right-click on the Desktop, then select
Properties. Select the Settings tab. There should be a droplist that
specifies the number of colors. Tell me that number. This is important,
since it can dictate which graphics are being used and how.

Thanks, Rob

At 05:06 PM 3/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>OK, I did what you said, and everything worked fine, I was able to change
>them around all I wanted. So I set it up how I wanted, then closed out of
>CV to go back to checking my email. Well, I went out for a bit and just
>got back. I turned on my PC to check my mail again, and on a hunch opened
>up CV. I went into MK's inventory and messed with the views, and it
>crashed again. This is what happened last time. It seems I can change them
>however I want once, then if I go back later to change them, it'll start
>crashing.
>
>I've played around even more with the SW TCG files trying to get them to
>crash in the same way, but I can't. The only thing I can think of is that
>its a problem with the MK files specifically, and not CV in general.
>
>To answer your questions, I have the latest MK files, I run Win98SE, I
>have an S3 Virge video card, I'm running at 800x600, and I'm not sure of
>the depth, how do I find this out?
>
>I'll try to crash some other datafiles doing the same thing, and if any
>others crash, I'll let you know.


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Old March 9th, 2003, 04:30 PM
Rob Bowes wrote:

> Wow. I have NO idea why this might be occurring. I have not been able to
> reproduce any problems with MK thus far. We'll have to try it out until
> Win98 and see whether things behave differently.


nope. One of my machines run 98SE and no problems. I tried to repro the
problem, but no effect.

What about checking the versions of all the controls used in the
inventory screen vs. the ones installed on his 'puter. He might have a
newer control that is behaving strangely.

(Just guessing here).

He should also list the other programs running /resident at the same
time as the problem. It may be one of them.

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Old March 9th, 2003, 04:46 PM
At 08:28 PM 3/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>nope. One of my machines run 98SE and no problems. I tried to repro the
>problem, but no effect.

Crap!

>What about checking the versions of all the controls used in the
>inventory screen vs. the ones installed on his 'puter. He might have a
>newer control that is behaving strangely.

CV doesn't use a single external control. Everything uses the Windows API
exclusively. So CV is self-contained, and there aren't external variables
to worry about. Well, except for the internet API provided by the
"wininet.dll" DLL. But there's no UI with that, so that's definitely not
the problem. :-(

>(Just guessing here).

And a good one for most products out there. :-)

>He should also list the other programs running /resident at the same
>time as the problem. It may be one of them.

Good point. Kyle???

-Rob

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Old March 9th, 2003, 05:58 PM
Uh, my keyboard has a systray app for the multimedia support, I use Callwave Internet Answering Machine, and it lives in systray whether I'm online or not. And that's it. I can't think of anything else.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] To Rob: v1.1 problems


At 08:28 PM 3/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>nope. One of my machines run 98SE and no problems. I tried to repro the
>problem, but no effect.

Crap!

>What about checking the versions of all the controls used in the
>inventory screen vs. the ones installed on his 'puter. He might have a
>newer control that is behaving strangely.

CV doesn't use a single external control. Everything uses the Windows API
exclusively. So CV is self-contained, and there aren't external variables
to worry about. Well, except for the internet API provided by the
"wininet.dll" DLL. But there's no UI with that, so that's definitely not
the problem. :-(

>(Just guessing here).

And a good one for most products out there. :-)

>He should also list the other programs running /resident at the same
>time as the problem. It may be one of them.

Good point. Kyle???

-Rob

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Old March 9th, 2003, 11:50 PM
Kyle Turner wrote:

> Uh, my keyboard has a systray app for the multimedia support, I use
> Callwave Internet Answering Machine, and it lives in systray whether
> I'm online or not. And that's it. I can't think of anything else.


load cardvault, get it to crash, close it out (if it hangs).

Press CTRL-ALT-DEL (only once) and list every program listed there. Not
all your resident programs are visible in the system tray.

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