Mordheim data for army builder

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Hello,
I just bought army builder and downloaded the AB files referenced below.
Both the software and the AB files are excellent.
I would like to report some bugs I've found while creating a
witchhunter warband, specifically while equiping my flagellants:

1) When I select flail, I am given the choice of picking a 2nd flail.
The book states that it is a 2 handed weapon and so you can't use
anything else.
2) Same problem for the morningstar although the book calls it
"difficult to use" so you can use a normal shield if not in HtH.
3) Same problem, although I am curious to find out who could wield a
Double-handed "double-handed" weapon? Giant, up-right walking,
spiders???
4) The "Burn the Witch" special rule prints that the Captain hates
spellcasters. Actually all witchhunters(captain and heroes) hate
spellcasters.

Anyway, that's my 2cents worth. Please forward to the person that ownes
the AB files if they are not on this list.

As an FYI, I'm studying the manual furiously so I can create AB files
too
for some of the un-official warbands that other people and myself have
created
and posted on the web. Since I am new to this I can't promise when but
I will
post to this list when I have something usable.

Thanks,
Hugo(Ed is my alter ego)

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> Subject: [AB] Mordheim data for army builder
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> Does anyone know where to get an accurate data file for mordheim.
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which mordheim file did you download? mordheim5.zip is the current one...

Gene
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ed and Hugo <cujo4103@flash.net>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 4:01 PM
Subject: [AB] Re: Mordheim data for army builder


> Hello,
> I just bought army builder and downloaded the AB files referenced below.
> Both the software and the AB files are excellent.
> I would like to report some bugs I've found while creating a
> witchhunter warband, specifically while equiping my flagellants:
>
> 1) When I select flail, I am given the choice of picking a 2nd flail.
> The book states that it is a 2 handed weapon and so you can't use
> anything else.
> 2) Same problem for the morningstar although the book calls it
> "difficult to use" so you can use a normal shield if not in HtH.
> 3) Same problem, although I am curious to find out who could wield a
> Double-handed "double-handed" weapon? Giant, up-right walking,
> spiders???
> 4) The "Burn the Witch" special rule prints that the Captain hates
> spellcasters. Actually all witchhunters(captain and heroes) hate
> spellcasters.
>
> Anyway, that's my 2cents worth. Please forward to the person that ownes
> the AB files if they are not on this list.
>
> As an FYI, I'm studying the manual furiously so I can create AB files
> too
> for some of the un-official warbands that other people and myself have
> created
> and posted on the web. Since I am new to this I can't promise when but
> I will
> post to this list when I have something usable.
>
> Thanks,
> Hugo(Ed is my alter ego)
>
> "grailknight" <grailknigh-@weblnk.net> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/armybuilder/?start=22
> > my site...follow the link in my signature...
> >
> >
> > Gene
> > http://www.weblnk.net/grailknight
> > http://eldarcraftworld.n3.net
> > WHFB, Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, Army Builder
> > ======================================
> > undead-warbands@egroups.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joe Mcniff
> > To: armybuilder@eGroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:27 PM
> > Subject: [AB] Mordheim data for army builder
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know where to get an accurate data file for mordheim.
> The one on Killroy's sight is incorrect. Are there any others?
>
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I downloaded the mordheim5.zip.
Later,
Hugo(Ed is my alter ego)

"grailknight" <grailknigh-@weblnk.net> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/armybuilder/?start=86
> which mordheim file did you download? mordheim5.zip is the current
one...
>
> Gene
> http://www.weblnk.net/grailknight
> WHFB, Mordheim, BFGothic, 40K, AB Data
> ===================================
> undead-warbands@egroups.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed and Hugo <cujo4103@flash.net>
> To: <armybuilder@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 4:01 PM
> Subject: [AB] Re: Mordheim data for army builder
>
>
> > Hello,
> > I just bought army builder and downloaded the AB files referenced
below.
> > Both the software and the AB files are excellent.
> > I would like to report some bugs I've found while creating a
> > witchhunter warband, specifically while equiping my flagellants:
> >
> > 1) When I select flail, I am given the choice of picking a 2nd
flail.
> > The book states that it is a 2 handed weapon and so you can't use
> > anything else.
> > 2) Same problem for the morningstar although the book calls it
> > "difficult to use" so you can use a normal shield if not in HtH.
> > 3) Same problem, although I am curious to find out who could wield a
> > Double-handed "double-handed" weapon? Giant, up-right walking,
> > spiders???
> > 4) The "Burn the Witch" special rule prints that the Captain hates
> > spellcasters. Actually all witchhunters(captain and heroes) hate
> > spellcasters.
> >
> > Anyway, that's my 2cents worth. Please forward to the person that
ownes
> > the AB files if they are not on this list.
> >
> > As an FYI, I'm studying the manual furiously so I can create AB
files
> > too
> > for some of the un-official warbands that other people and myself
have
> > created
> > and posted on the web. Since I am new to this I can't promise when
but
> > I will
> > post to this list when I have something usable.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hugo(Ed is my alter ego)
> >
> > "grailknight" <grailknigh-@weblnk.net> wrote:
> > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/armybuilder/?start=22
> > > my site...follow the link in my signature...
> > >
> > >
> > > Gene
> > > http://www.weblnk.net/grailknight
> > > http://eldarcraftworld.n3.net
> > > WHFB, Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, Army Builder
> > > ======================================
> > > undead-warbands@egroups.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joe Mcniff
> > > To: armybuilder@eGroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:27 PM
> > > Subject: [AB] Mordheim data for army builder
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where to get an accurate data file for
mordheim.
> > The one on Killroy's sight is incorrect. Are there any others?
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
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One fine day in the middle of the night, GrailKnight
<grailknight@weblnk.net> got up to write:

>which mordheim file did you download? mordheim5.zip is the current one...

mordheim6 is actually the current one, as of Wednesday IIRC. I think I
remembered to upload it...

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One fine day in the middle of the night, Ed and Hugo
<cujo4103@flash.net> got up to write:

>1) When I select flail, I am given the choice of picking a 2nd flail.
>The book states that it is a 2 handed weapon and so you can't use
>anything else.

Where does it state this? It says that you can have up to 2 hand to hand
combat weapons, but I can't remember anything about an extra limit on
2-handed ones.

>2) Same problem for the morningstar although the book calls it
>"difficult to use" so you can use a normal shield if not in HtH.

You can always use a shield if you're not in hand to hand, whatever
weapons you have.

>3) Same problem, although I am curious to find out who could wield a
>Double-handed "double-handed" weapon? Giant, up-right walking,
>spiders???

Uh, what's a double handed double handed weapon?

>4) The "Burn the Witch" special rule prints that the Captain hates
>spellcasters. Actually all witchhunters(captain and heroes) hate
>spellcasters.

Good point, I'll get it fixed.

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mordheim6.zip is what you need. I loaded it last night...

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed and Hugo <cujo4103@flash.net>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 11:41 PM
Subject: [AB] Re: Mordheim data for army builder


> I downloaded the mordheim5.zip.
> Later,
> Hugo(Ed is my alter ego)
>
> "grailknight" <grailknigh-@weblnk.net> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/armybuilder/?start=86
> > which mordheim file did you download? mordheim5.zip is the current
> one...
> >
> > Gene
> > http://www.weblnk.net/grailknight
> > WHFB, Mordheim, BFGothic, 40K, AB Data
> > ===================================
> > undead-warbands@egroups.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ed and Hugo <cujo4103@flash.net>
> > To: <armybuilder@eGroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 4:01 PM
> > Subject: [AB] Re: Mordheim data for army builder
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I just bought army builder and downloaded the AB files referenced
> below.
> > > Both the software and the AB files are excellent.
> > > I would like to report some bugs I've found while creating a
> > > witchhunter warband, specifically while equiping my flagellants:
> > >
> > > 1) When I select flail, I am given the choice of picking a 2nd
> flail.
> > > The book states that it is a 2 handed weapon and so you can't use
> > > anything else.
> > > 2) Same problem for the morningstar although the book calls it
> > > "difficult to use" so you can use a normal shield if not in HtH.
> > > 3) Same problem, although I am curious to find out who could wield a
> > > Double-handed "double-handed" weapon? Giant, up-right walking,
> > > spiders???
> > > 4) The "Burn the Witch" special rule prints that the Captain hates
> > > spellcasters. Actually all witchhunters(captain and heroes) hate
> > > spellcasters.
> > >
> > > Anyway, that's my 2cents worth. Please forward to the person that
> ownes
> > > the AB files if they are not on this list.
> > >
> > > As an FYI, I'm studying the manual furiously so I can create AB
> files
> > > too
> > > for some of the un-official warbands that other people and myself
> have
> > > created
> > > and posted on the web. Since I am new to this I can't promise when
> but
> > > I will
> > > post to this list when I have something usable.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Hugo(Ed is my alter ego)
> > >
> > > "grailknight" <grailknigh-@weblnk.net> wrote:
> > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/armybuilder/?start=22
> > > > my site...follow the link in my signature...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gene
> > > > http://www.weblnk.net/grailknight
> > > > http://eldarcraftworld.n3.net
> > > > WHFB, Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, Army Builder
> > > > ======================================
> > > > undead-warbands@egroups.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Joe Mcniff
> > > > To: armybuilder@eGroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:27 PM
> > > > Subject: [AB] Mordheim data for army builder
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know where to get an accurate data file for
> mordheim.
> > > The one on Killroy's sight is incorrect. Are there any others?
> > >
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I downloaded mordheim6.zip and it looks like it suffers from the same
problem.
I don't know if this relates but I am using Armybuilder 1.4c
I added comments down below too.

colen 'not colin' mcalister & the skrills <demandre-@skrill.org> wrote:
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> One fine day in the middle of the night, Ed and Hugo
> <cujo4103@flash.net> got up to write:
>
> >1) When I select flail, I am given the choice of picking a 2nd flail.
> >The book states that it is a 2 handed weapon and so you can't use
> >anything else.
>
> Where does it state this? It says that you can have up to 2 hand to
hand
> combat weapons, but I can't remember anything about an extra limit on
> 2-handed ones.

Under the Flail description on page 41 of the book.

>
> >2) Same problem for the morningstar although the book calls it
> >"difficult to use" so you can use a normal shield if not in HtH.
>
> You can always use a shield if you're not in hand to hand, whatever
> weapons you have.

I agree but this gets into a rules interpretation I think.
What is the difference between the Flail description on page 41 and
the Morningstar description on page 42? I'll hazard a guess but maybe
I should send this one to the Rulz Boyz for the final say.
IMO, If you select a flail, you can not use any other off-hand item in
HtH.
If you select a morningstar, you can only use a shield in the off-hand
in HtH.
Comments?
Flagellant don't use shields so they won't care either way but other
models might.

>
> >3) Same problem, although I am curious to find out who could wield a
> >Double-handed "double-handed" weapon? Giant, up-right walking,
> >spiders???
>
> Uh, what's a double handed double handed weapon?

That's what I was wondering. If you create a dummy witchhunter warband
and then add a flagellant and select Double handed weapon on the unit
options you get a choice of a 2nd double handed weapon. The
program/datafile lets you
do it but I don't think that was intended in the book.

>
> >4) The "Burn the Witch" special rule prints that the Captain hates
> >spellcasters. Actually all witchhunters(captain and heroes) hate
> >spellcasters.
>
> Good point, I'll get it fixed.
>
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One fine day in the middle of the night, Ed and Hugo
<cujo4103@flash.net> got up to write:

>> >1) When I select flail, I am given the choice of picking a 2nd flail.
>> >The book states that it is a 2 handed weapon and so you can't use
>> >anything else.
>>
>> Where does it state this? It says that you can have up to 2 hand to
>hand
>> combat weapons, but I can't remember anything about an extra limit on
>> 2-handed ones.
>
>Under the Flail description on page 41 of the book.

It says you can't *use* one; it doesn't say you can't carry one.

>> >2) Same problem for the morningstar although the book calls it
>> >"difficult to use" so you can use a normal shield if not in HtH.
>>
>> You can always use a shield if you're not in hand to hand, whatever
>> weapons you have.
>
>I agree but this gets into a rules interpretation I think.
>What is the difference between the Flail description on page 41 and
>the Morningstar description on page 42? I'll hazard a guess but maybe
>I should send this one to the Rulz Boyz for the final say.

No, I don't think so.

>IMO, If you select a flail, you can not use any other off-hand item in
>HtH.

Flails need 2 hands to use. Unless you have 3 or more hands (possible
for Possessed) you can't use anything else while you're using it, but
you can still carry other things.

>If you select a morningstar, you can only use a shield in the off-hand
>in HtH.

Correct.

>> >3) Same problem, although I am curious to find out who could wield a
>> >Double-handed "double-handed" weapon? Giant, up-right walking,
>> >spiders???
>>
>> Uh, what's a double handed double handed weapon?
>
>That's what I was wondering. If you create a dummy witchhunter warband
>and then add a flagellant and select Double handed weapon on the unit
>options you get a choice of a 2nd double handed weapon. The
>program/datafile lets you
>do it but I don't think that was intended in the book.

There's nothing to stop you carrying 2. You can only use one at a time,
obviously.

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