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LJ, thanks for the update, but it doesn't address the harder questions, some of which are a carry over from other threads, but might be appropriate here. BJ has said that HLO is still a "beta". That's not mentioned above and probably should be to set expectations. Line #1 is disappointing to me as there is much basic functionality (encounter generator, starship builder) that are basic parts of Starfinder (let alone Pathfinder 2E) that aren't implemented, but it seems LW is moving on to Shadowrun. There's been over 18 months of Starfinder "functionality", but only at the most basic levels. $24 is really not a lot. I get that. It seems that chasing the next shiny game system is more important than creating the basic functionality requested by customers for games that are already paid for (and yes, despite not paying the monthly fee, I have laid down much more already for what little is available with a promise the rest is coming later). So, when you say it supports SF and PF2, it's really that you are supporting character generation with those systems, but nothing else (yet). I'm still waiting for the rest.
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Reposting a discussion with BJ from another thread, since it's relevant here:
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Rob - “There is definitely a downside to this. In the process of switching over to the new product model, it is likely that there will be some number of existing users that choose not to embrace the new model – and, in some cases, can’t. Is that ideal? Of course not. It’s an unfortunate reality of the situation. However, if we stick with the old model, we’ll lose a different – and we believe much larger – set of users as they abandon us because we don’t support the devices they choose to use in their games. We have to pick our poison, as we sadly can’t “do it all”.”
This statement makes me sad. There are already multiple online-only services and there is only one comprehensive offline service: HLC And now there are likely to be none. |
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I have not been to the forums lately and I read:
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HeroLab Online is only for Pathfinder 2 (pathfinder goen the way of D&D 4E imo, and thus a rpg on its way into the trash heap like 4E) and Starfinder, which I also don't play.
I use HLC since it still supports the original Pathfinder which I still use, and D&D 5E. Why pay a subscription fee for something that doesn't support what I use. In addition, until recently, I did a lot of Homebrew in HLC (D&D 5E) and I don't think the same amount of customiztion is available in HLO . . . Watch your back, Conserve your ammo, and NEVER cut a deal with a dragon! |
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I've been using HLO for Starfinder since Oct 2017 (just over two years) and haven't paid any server fees yet.
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As a avid user of herolab through the years, i spent almost 500 dollars buying pathfinder addons.
I think the price is well paid because I can use it forever (if I make a decent backup of my things). The main reason to go online is to enable almost any device to get access but you still limit to one device. The online version needs to buy each module, buy subscription ( Yeah, i know you are not charging YET ) and dont have any kind of security of the service, some examples:
Subscribe to get everything released so far its an example, so instead of have to pay the full price and be asked to pay more later, just pay a subscrition to get everything. |
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It sounds like the model isn't for you. Good on ya. That fact doesn't mean that it's an inherently bad model. For many of us, HLO works great and will only get better. (Particularly when PF1 comes to the platform. nudge, nudge). |
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