dotted line

Ah, I understand. But why dotted? It's just distracting, but them perhaps that's the point. What about some shadowing, so it looks like the field in-focus is raised above everything else? I rather like that idea, but would it even be doable? At any rate, its just a suggestion, I guess more important things require your attention


--Kyle Turner
emperor799@earthlink.net


"Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on ebay." -- astral_drake

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] by the way...


Now that CV has full keyboard support, there needs to be some way of
identifying to the user which control on the form has the keyboard focus.
CV does that by putting a faint grey dotted line around the focus control,
much like Windows does in all normal Windows applications. So this is new
in V1.1 and is very imortant for those who hollered loudly for keyboard
support.

The fact that this was not appearing in your first attempts with V1.1 is
very puzzling. Since this is a fundamental part of V1.1 now, it further
points to a very messed up installation. I still have no idea how it
happened, but you sure managed to accomplish it. :-)

Thanks, Rob


At 12:03 AM 3/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>In v1.1, when I click on one of the main windows in deckbuilding (like the
>one that lists my cards/figs or the one that lists my deck/army) it
>becomes outlined by a dotted line. It has never done this before, with
>v1.08b or with my flawed earlier copy of v1.1. I was just wondering if
>those windows are supposed to be outlined by a dotted line. It's really
>rather distracting.


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[rob]

We just discovered what is likely the problem. Are you running under
Win95/98/ME? If so, that's the problem. :-(

It appears that there is yet another BUG in Windows 95/98/ME (I know, no
surprise there). When you tell those versions of Windows to draw a dotted
line, they draw WHITE where they aren't drawing the specified color.
Consequently, under Win2K/XP, the outline appears as a faint grey dotted
outline, just enough to indicate the focus, but not at all distracting.
However, under Win95/98/ME, the outline is a alternation of faint grey and
WHITE, so it looks like a bright white dotted line.

Since we do all our development under Win2K, and our one other main system
here uses XP, we didn't encounter this until we investigated it further due
to your posts.

Since this is a bug in Windows, we can't just fix the bug in the product.
The solution requires that we come up with a completely different way of
implementing the mechanism under Win95/98/ME. I've logged this as a problem
and we'll do our best to address it in a bug fix release. But I'm currently
stumped as to how best to solve this (on a technical, coding level).

Thanks, Rob

At 02:35 AM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Ah, I understand. But why dotted? It's just distracting, but them perhaps
>that's the point. What about some shadowing, so it looks like the field
>in-focus is raised above everything else? I rather like that idea, but
>would it even be doable? At any rate, its just a suggestion, I guess more
>important things require your attention


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Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com

Ah. Alright, that explains it. I do like the idea of a raised effect, something like however you programmers give 3D buttons that pop up effect. Sorry I can't explain it better, but I'm more of a user at this point, though I am looking into the programming side of things


--Kyle Turner
emperor799@earthlink.net


"Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on ebay." -- astral_drake

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] dotted line


We just discovered what is likely the problem. Are you running under
Win95/98/ME? If so, that's the problem. :-(

It appears that there is yet another BUG in Windows 95/98/ME (I know, no
surprise there). When you tell those versions of Windows to draw a dotted
line, they draw WHITE where they aren't drawing the specified color.
Consequently, under Win2K/XP, the outline appears as a faint grey dotted
outline, just enough to indicate the focus, but not at all distracting.
However, under Win95/98/ME, the outline is a alternation of faint grey and
WHITE, so it looks like a bright white dotted line.

Since we do all our development under Win2K, and our one other main system
here uses XP, we didn't encounter this until we investigated it further due
to your posts.

Since this is a bug in Windows, we can't just fix the bug in the product.
The solution requires that we come up with a completely different way of
implementing the mechanism under Win95/98/ME. I've logged this as a problem
and we'll do our best to address it in a bug fix release. But I'm currently
stumped as to how best to solve this (on a technical, coding level).

Thanks, Rob

At 02:35 AM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Ah, I understand. But why dotted? It's just distracting, but them perhaps
>that's the point. What about some shadowing, so it looks like the field
>in-focus is raised above everything else? I rather like that idea, but
>would it even be doable? At any rate, its just a suggestion, I guess more
>important things require your attention


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