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Penthau
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Old September 19th, 2022, 06:09 PM
When I add 1 mythic guardian tier to a paladin of 6th level, she gains 23 hit points, instead of the expected 5 bonus hp. I can toggle the tier on and off and see the hit points jump. When I increase the tier to 2, it only goes up by 5. She has a con of 14, which may be factoring in somehow.
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Old September 20th, 2022, 07:49 AM
Not able to replicate this, at least with the info given so far. I made a Paladin 6, 14 in all stats before racial adjustments, max HP. Without Mythic it's at 78 HP. With Mythic added, 1 Tier, and Guardian Path, it goes to 83. What Mythic Path Abilities did you select? What about Mythic Feat? What base feats, etc?
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Old September 21st, 2022, 06:29 AM
I should have done this before I posted, but I made a new character sheet with the same choices and I can't duplicate it either. My guess is either the file got corrupted or some choice I made earlier got hidden later. In the immortal words of Emily Latella, "never mind".
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Old September 22nd, 2022, 09:05 PM
Sounds like what we used to call "Car Ride Syndrome" at the computer repair place I used to work at. As soon as you ask for help it starts working.
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Old September 28th, 2022, 05:19 AM
Murphy's Law.

When asked to demonstrate the problem for the repair man, it works perfectly.
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Old October 1st, 2022, 03:53 PM
Oddly enough it happened again, on a warpriest this time. If I change his path over to Champion, the hp are correct, but when I change them back to Guardian, they jump again. And it is 23 hp again. I am going to see if building another sheet from scratch fixes it.

Creating a new sheet didn't fix it this time. As soon as I added Guardian the hp jumped from 66 to 89. I added another normal level to the character and gave it 1 hp +2 from con. The total should have gone up by 3, but it went up by 6. I think that Guardian is adding 3 hp per character level. The 23 extra at 6th includes the 5 bonus from tier 1 for 18 at 6th level or 3 per level.

And I swear that my car was making that sound when I drove it into the shop. :-)

Last edited by Penthau; October 1st, 2022 at 04:59 PM. Reason: update info
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Old October 6th, 2022, 07:09 AM
Unfortunately I'm still unable to replicate this, at least based on the info given.

I made a human warpriest of Nethys. For easy work I set all stats to 18 before racial and gave the +2 to Con to make it 20. I set automatic max HP at new levels and left the FCB on +1 HP. For Feats I took Toughness, Ignore Pain, Combat Casting and Endurance. Bonus feats for lvl 6 warpriest are combat reflexes and defensive combat training.

At level 6 with Mythic turned off, I'm at 90 HP.
Turning on Mythic and staying Tier 1, adding just Guardian I go to 95.
I took Absorb Blow for my Guardian's Call, no change to HP (as expected)
For the Path Ability I took Armor Master, still no change to HP (again, as expected).
For Mythic Feat I took Toughness and my HP Went up to 101, which is, again, as expected.

Not sure what may be adding the extra HP to you, but Guardian itself isn't doing it for me.

Last edited by Eilserves; October 6th, 2022 at 07:14 AM. Reason: Random "tab" misfire caused a premature post.
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Old October 7th, 2022, 12:04 PM
I had a fixed version of the original broken paladin and I was adding a new character level and everything seemed fine until I added a feat as bonus in the adjustment section. When I got back to the feats section, I notice that the hp had jumped to +21 for a 7th level paladin. Maybe it's interacting badly with the adjustments section?
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Old October 9th, 2022, 03:46 PM
I just discovered that it may be working as intended. The exposed to awfulness trait that leads to the guardian path grants +3 hp per character level when the character becomes mythic guardian. I never noticed that it may be separate from the guardian path.

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Old October 14th, 2022, 08:32 PM
I can confirm that when I add that trait the HP jumps up another 18 HP, which matches the +3 per level at level 6 and totals the 23 (5 for base Guardian)
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