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Erikull
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Old May 28th, 2017, 12:34 PM
I'm trying to look at a few different character types in Hero Lab and am having a damnable time finding out which archetypes are in which books. Finally thought I had it figured out and blew 12.99 on a worthless (to me) book.

For instance, this Adventurer's Guide description:

"A wealth of new player options, including feats, spells, magic items, prestige classes, archetypes, and new abilities and powers for a wide range of classes."

Can you be more vague? WHICH archetypes?!

I can't even find a single god damn archetype for a paladin!! What am I missing? Where are the bloodrager archetypes?!

There has to be a way this could be listed better.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 03:00 PM
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I'm trying to look at a few different character types in Hero Lab and am having a damnable time finding out which archetypes are in which books. Finally thought I had it figured out and blew 12.99 on a worthless (to me) book.

For instance, this Adventurer's Guide description:

"A wealth of new player options, including feats, spells, magic items, prestige classes, archetypes, and new abilities and powers for a wide range of classes."

Can you be more vague? WHICH archetypes?!

I can't even find a single god damn archetype for a paladin!! What am I missing? Where are the bloodrager archetypes?!

There has to be a way this could be listed better.
Please take a deep breath. HL is a good tool, but you should still have access to the source materials that HL uses. I just took a look there are ~50 different archetypes for the Paladin. A quick list is:

• Advanced Class Guide - Holy Guide (archetype); Temple Champion (archetype)
• Advanced Player's Guide - Divine Defender (archetype); Hospitaler (archetype); Sacred Servant (archetype); Shining Knight (archetype); Touch of Serenity (feat); Undead Scourge (archetype); Warrior of the Holy Light (archetype)
• Advanced Race Guide - Redeemer (archetype); Stonelord (archetype); Tranquil Guardian (archetype)
• Armor Master's Handbook - Legate (archetype)
• Blood of Shadows - Dusk Knight (archetype)
• Cohorts and Companions - Divine Guardian (archetype)
• Divine Anthology - Iomedan Enforcer (archetype); Oath against the Whispering Way (archetype); Oath of the Mendevian Crusade (archetype); Oath of the People's Council (archetype); Oath of the Skyseeker (archetype)
• Familiar Folio - Chosen One (archetype); Emissary (archetype)
• Healer's Handbook - Invigorator (archetype)
• Heroes of the High Court - Virtuous Bravo (archetype)
• Horror Adventures - Martyr (archetype); Soul Sentinel (archetype); Tortured Crusader (archetype)
• Inner Sea Combat - Iroran Paladin (archetype); Oath against Chaos (archetype); Oath against Grotesquery (archetype)
• Inner Sea Magic - First Into Battle (equipment); Prayer of the Fourth Act (equipment); Sword of Valor (archetype)
• Knights of the Inner Sea - Combat Healer Squire (archetype)
• Legacy of Dragons - Silver Champion (archetype)
• Monster Hunter's Handbook - Banishing Warden (archetype)
• Occult Adventures - Ghost Hunter (archetype)
• Occult Origins - Mind Sword (archetype)
• Ultimate Combat - Divine Hunter (archetype); Empyreal Knight (archetype); Holy Tactician (archetype); Sacred Shield (archetype)
• Ultimate Intrigue - Gray Paladin (archetype)
• Ultimate Magic - Oath against Corruption (archetype); Oath against Fiends (archetype); Oath against Savagery (archetype); Oath against the Wyrm (archetype); Oath against Undeath (archetype); Oath of Charity (archetype); Oath of Chastity (archetype); Oath of Loyalty (archetype); Oath of Vengeance (archetype)
• Weapon Master's Handbook - Tempered Champion (archetype)

Keep in mind that the HL packages correspond with Paizo's published works.
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Minous
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Old May 28th, 2017, 03:06 PM
I will also note that I do not think that Adventurer's Guide has been released yet.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 03:08 PM
Your bloodrager list is smaller:
• Advanced Class Guide - Blood Conduit (archetype); Bloodrager (class); Bloodrider (archetype); Crossblooded (archetype); Greenrager (archetype); Metamagic Rager (archetype); Primalist (archetype); Rageshaper (archetype); Spelleater (archetype); Steelblood (archetype); Untouchable Rager (archetype)
• Arcane Anthology - Enlightened Bloodrager (archetype)
• Blood of the Beast - Prowler at World's End (archetype)
• Heroes of the Streets - Urban Bloodrager (archetype)
• Melee Tactics Toolbox - Bloody-Knuckled Rowdy (archetype)
• Monster Summoner's Handbook - Ancestral Harbinger (archetype)
• Occult Origins - Id Rager (archetype)
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charlieluce
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Old May 28th, 2017, 06:55 PM
I'm also pretty sure that it you contact Lone Wolf within 30 days you can get the unneeded book taken off your license for a refund.

Currently Running: Pathfinder Second Edition
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Pathfinder First Edition, Star Trek Adventures
Former HL Games: D&D 4e & 5e, Mutants & Masterminds 2E & 3E, Savage Worlds
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Ualaa
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Old May 29th, 2017, 03:46 AM
A site like Archives of Nethys or d20pfsrd would probably tell you where a given archetype originated.

I usually go with getting everything for Hero Lab, and using HL to determine where anything is found.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 05:53 AM
go to d20pfsrd.com, and find the archetype there. At the bottom of the page, it will list what source it was from.
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