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I'm just itching to know more about this. Please post something as soon as you can.
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At 09:28 PM 3/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm just itching to know more about this. Please post something as soon as >you can. Here is a basic overview..... A key part of the CCG and CMG hobby is the collecting, which usually means trading and/or selling cards. Another key part is the designing of cool decks, which entails coming up with cool ideas, sharing those ideas with others, etc. There are a boatload of websites out there dedicated to these purposes. Unfortunately, web-based interfaces are, to be blunt, pretty clunky for doing sophisticated things. But they are ideal for collecting and sharing information around the world. For example, entering your trade list and want list into a given website is usually slow and painful. But it's critical to do it if you want to work trades with others around the globe. Comparing one person's trade list against your want list is also painful to do via web-based interfaces. Now try to do this on a half-dozen or more sites, each with a different interface and requiring you to duplicate the effort each time. Bottom line: it's a time-consuming, far-from-optimal process. With Card Vault, we're striving to establish the product as a gateway to these sites. The goal is to let the websites do what they do best and have CV do what IT does best - i.e. merge the best of both worlds. CV does a great job of letting users quickly and easily manage their inventory. CV does a great job of letting users build, manipulate, and tune their decks. Starting in V1.1, CV adds the ability to easily reconcile trade/want lists from another user against your own inventory. What CV does NOT do is offer global repositories of decks, trade lists, etc. So how do we merge these two realms? That's where the Partner Sites concept comes in. Imagine being able to upload your trade and want lists to a half-dozen trading sites with a few mouse clicks. Imagine being able to compare the trade/want lists of others against your own inventory quickly, easily, and at your leisure. Imagine downloading up-to-date pricing information and instantly knowing the value of your collection (or simply the cards you want to buy/sell). CV won't replace the websites in any way - you'll still use the sites to search for potential trading partners, find cool decks, etc. But CV WILL let you utilize these sites more effectively and more efficiently, and it will let the maintainers of the sites focus their energies on adding new features and functionality to the site. CV communicates with Partner Sites through a standardized interface, allowing the user to easily view and manipulate things on his/her computer, yet ultimately putting the important bits of information up on the Partner Sites. [NOTE! The user controls exactly what information is/isn't shared.] To make this possible, we've specified an API for how CV will communicate with Partner Sites. It's a very simple and straightforward API that enables CV to send information to Partner Sites and retrieve information back. In the same way that data file updates are handled, Partner Sites define the services that they offer and how to access them. This enables a Partner Site to change its behavior over time, adding new services or changing things, as needed. Information is shared via standardized file formats. All of CV's important file formats are now fully documented in the Authoring Kit. They utilize XML for maximum versatility and ease of support by others. Partner Sites need to send and receive information using these file formats. However, these formats are provided as an open standard that can be easily used to allow other client tools to access the Partner Site if the Partner Site chooses to do that. Full documentation on Partner Sites will be published in the near future. Right now, it's still a bit rough (the documentation - not the API), so it needs some cleanup. We already have one Partner Site operational and steadily bringing more services online (they're our guinea pig). We expect to have others online in the weeks to come. If you are currently using any online deck sharing and/or trading sites, please encourage them to support Card Vault's interface. It should require only a small amount of work for the site to integrate, but the net benefits to the end-user should be huge. Thanks, Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com |
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Wow. I sure hope you chatting with the guys at Realmworx and Wizardpress
If not, I'd be happy to send along a request. --Kyle Turner emperor799@earthlink.net "Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on ebay." -- astral_drake ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Bowes To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [CardVault] Partner Sites At 09:28 PM 3/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I'm just itching to know more about this. Please post something as soon as >you can. Here is a basic overview..... A key part of the CCG and CMG hobby is the collecting, which usually means trading and/or selling cards. Another key part is the designing of cool decks, which entails coming up with cool ideas, sharing those ideas with others, etc. There are a boatload of websites out there dedicated to these purposes. Unfortunately, web-based interfaces are, to be blunt, pretty clunky for doing sophisticated things. But they are ideal for collecting and sharing information around the world. For example, entering your trade list and want list into a given website is usually slow and painful. But it's critical to do it if you want to work trades with others around the globe. Comparing one person's trade list against your want list is also painful to do via web-based interfaces. Now try to do this on a half-dozen or more sites, each with a different interface and requiring you to duplicate the effort each time. Bottom line: it's a time-consuming, far-from-optimal process. With Card Vault, we're striving to establish the product as a gateway to these sites. The goal is to let the websites do what they do best and have CV do what IT does best - i.e. merge the best of both worlds. CV does a great job of letting users quickly and easily manage their inventory. CV does a great job of letting users build, manipulate, and tune their decks. Starting in V1.1, CV adds the ability to easily reconcile trade/want lists from another user against your own inventory. What CV does NOT do is offer global repositories of decks, trade lists, etc. So how do we merge these two realms? That's where the Partner Sites concept comes in. Imagine being able to upload your trade and want lists to a half-dozen trading sites with a few mouse clicks. Imagine being able to compare the trade/want lists of others against your own inventory quickly, easily, and at your leisure. Imagine downloading up-to-date pricing information and instantly knowing the value of your collection (or simply the cards you want to buy/sell). CV won't replace the websites in any way - you'll still use the sites to search for potential trading partners, find cool decks, etc. But CV WILL let you utilize these sites more effectively and more efficiently, and it will let the maintainers of the sites focus their energies on adding new features and functionality to the site. CV communicates with Partner Sites through a standardized interface, allowing the user to easily view and manipulate things on his/her computer, yet ultimately putting the important bits of information up on the Partner Sites. [NOTE! The user controls exactly what information is/isn't shared.] To make this possible, we've specified an API for how CV will communicate with Partner Sites. It's a very simple and straightforward API that enables CV to send information to Partner Sites and retrieve information back. In the same way that data file updates are handled, Partner Sites define the services that they offer and how to access them. This enables a Partner Site to change its behavior over time, adding new services or changing things, as needed. Information is shared via standardized file formats. All of CV's important file formats are now fully documented in the Authoring Kit. They utilize XML for maximum versatility and ease of support by others. Partner Sites need to send and receive information using these file formats. However, these formats are provided as an open standard that can be easily used to allow other client tools to access the Partner Site if the Partner Site chooses to do that. Full documentation on Partner Sites will be published in the near future. Right now, it's still a bit rough (the documentation - not the API), so it needs some cleanup. We already have one Partner Site operational and steadily bringing more services online (they're our guinea pig). We expect to have others online in the weeks to come. If you are currently using any online deck sharing and/or trading sites, please encourage them to support Card Vault's interface. It should require only a small amount of work for the site to integrate, but the net benefits to the end-user should be huge. Thanks, Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: cardvault-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs Online-No late fees! Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/bbvVKB/oEZ...VHAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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We've talked to WizardPress via the folks at Inquest. We're also talking
with folks at other sites. However, we have not yet spoken with the Realmworx folks. That's a good suggestion! Please feel free to send any and all nudges to anyone you think we should be working with. If the sites are hearing active fan support directly for something like this, it makes our discussions with them that much easier. So nudging the folks we're already talking with certainly can only help. :-> Also, let US know about your recommendations, so that we can contact them as well. Thanks, Rob At 12:12 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Wow. I sure hope you chatting with the guys at Realmworx and Wizardpress > >If not, I'd be happy to send along a request. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com |
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Okay then. You should also talk to Creation Matrix. It's a Heroclix site that comes off a lot like HCRealms, but people like it because its not as restrictive.
http://www.creationmatrix.com/index.php And hey, will/might you have multiple price... I don't know, lets just call them price guides for now. Anyway, will you/might you have multiple ones at once where they're all viewable in the inventory window so you can, say, compare prices between IQ and Scry? [If its one or the other, I prefer IQ] --Kyle Turner emperor799@earthlink.net "Let's face it, you can buy a bucket of hair at inflated prices on ebay." -- astral_drake ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Bowes To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [CardVault] Partner Sites We've talked to WizardPress via the folks at Inquest. We're also talking with folks at other sites. However, we have not yet spoken with the Realmworx folks. That's a good suggestion! Please feel free to send any and all nudges to anyone you think we should be working with. If the sites are hearing active fan support directly for something like this, it makes our discussions with them that much easier. So nudging the folks we're already talking with certainly can only help. :-> Also, let US know about your recommendations, so that we can contact them as well. Thanks, Rob At 12:12 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Wow. I sure hope you chatting with the guys at Realmworx and Wizardpress > >If not, I'd be happy to send along a request. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: cardvault-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Yahoo! Web Hosting makes it easy to build a professional web site. Sign up today and get free set-up, domain name, and more (up to a $100 value) http://us.click.yahoo.com/m3JvCD/wCp...VHAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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At 12:38 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Okay then. You should also talk to Creation Matrix. It's a Heroclix site >that comes off a lot like HCRealms, but people like it because its not as >restrictive. > >http://www.creationmatrix.com/index.php Thanks for the tip! >And hey, will/might you have multiple price... I don't know, lets just >call them price guides for now. Anyway, will you/might you have multiple >ones at once where they're all viewable in the inventory window so you >can, say, compare prices between IQ and Scry? CV does not have provisions for this at the current time. You'll be able to download a single set of prices at a time. No comparisons will be possible within V1.1. If there is enough demand for this, it can be put on the todo list for a future update. Thanks, Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com |
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