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Toblakai
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Old September 13th, 2019, 01:24 PM
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so it only works properly if we buy new content the minute it's released? is that intentional?
No it only works IFF you open your character between product release and product purchase. Seems like a reasonable approach to me.
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Old September 15th, 2019, 11:19 AM
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What's being described is not the way the behavior is set up to work. New sources are set up to turn on automatically, as long as you own the package they're included in.

What I suspect may be happening is that between the time we made the update available for purchase, and the time people purchase the update, they've opened their characters - once it's opened, HL will save the state of each book, and if the source is available, but not purchased yet, it will save that that character does not use that book, and in that case, you'd need to re-open the settings for that character to turn on that book.

We did not change the way this is handled in HLO from the way it is handled in HLC.
Well that's helpful to know and it helps me understand why I would sometimes run into similar problems using HLC.

That said, I'm no programmer but this seems like a really unnecessary annoyance that could hopefully be easily resolved. I imagine that there are many in the same boat as me: if we are buying a product from you, we want to be able to use it, for all of our PCs. Really, the only limiter that I want (and I do appreciate this one very much) is being told when something is not PFS-legal. As you currently have it structured, it's quite possible, likely even, that we customers will buy products from you and then not even realize that we are not using them. And yes, sure, we can always go turn them on later when we realize that they have not been toggled on, but that's not much help when you have spent an hour choosing the PC's next feat by reading through all of the options (as HL shows them to you), only to later realize that you were looking at an incomplete list.

I hope that you will consider changing this to something more user-friendly. As far as I'm concerned, the perfect set-up would be: all (purchased) options on by default for all PCs, with an option to indicate (as in HLC) when an option is not PFS-legal.

Thanks for considering.
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Old September 15th, 2019, 04:09 PM
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I hope that you will consider changing this to something more user-friendly. As far as I'm concerned, the perfect set-up would be: all (purchased) options on by default for all PCs, with an option to indicate (as in HLC) when an option is not PFS-legal.

Thanks for considering.
Personally, I would like them to not be on by default per character, would prefer to enable them as I go. I have a GM that doesn't allow all sources (i.e. ones he doesn't own), so I could see making choices I am not allowed to if they turn on automatically.
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Old September 15th, 2019, 05:03 PM
As a DM who already has had problems with players trying to take options that aren't being used as part of a particular campaign, I'm all in favor of having to explicitly enable new purchases on existing characters.



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Old September 17th, 2019, 05:47 AM
Thanks for the positive feedback Toblakai / charlieluce! BTW, I have sent forward the toggle button idea. So it's on the radar. Thanks!
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