Independent Characters and Termi Armour, etc.

At 11:10 11/03/2001 -0600, you wrote:

> > 1) The HQ Characters' entry states that they are Independent Characters
> > unless accompanied by a Bodyguard. The Armory section then goes on to
>list
> > items, and note that many can only be taken by an Independent
> > Character. If the HQ character does take a bodyguard, then is he no
>longer
> > an Independent Character and therefore cannot take those Independent
> > Character items like Terminator armor?
> > Correct.
>
>*poink* Say what? I distinctly remember reading from an official GW source
>previously that the opposite was true, that they *could* still take IC
>items.

Exactly, hence my conf00zion.

>Could you give me a URL or source for that FAQ?

I got them in the latest GW Q&A, which I've just uploaded to the Vault:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/armybu...%2016Feb01.doc


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister" <demandred@skrill.org>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: [AB] Independent Characters and Termi Armour, etc.

> 1) The HQ Characters' entry states that they are Independent Characters
> unless accompanied by a Bodyguard. The Armory section then goes on to
list
> items, and note that many can only be taken by an Independent
> Character. If the HQ character does take a bodyguard, then is he no
longer
> an Independent Character and therefore cannot take those Independent
> Character items like Terminator armor?
> Correct.

*poink* Say what? I distinctly remember reading from an official GW source
previously that the opposite was true, that they *could* still take IC
items. Could you give me a URL or source for that FAQ?
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Hello, chaps.

Currently in the 40k files, if you're an Independent Character you can take
Artificer or Terminator Armour - even if you then take a Command Squad. Is
this correct?

The case for:

I'm sure I read this somewhere, but I can't remember where. Can anyone
remember if it was specified in White Dwarf?

The case against:

From the latest GW Q&A:

1) The HQ Characters' entry states that they are Independent Characters
unless accompanied by a Bodyguard. The Armory section then goes on to list
items, and note that many can only be taken by an Independent
Character. If the HQ character does take a bodyguard, then is he no longer
an Independent Character and therefore cannot take those Independent
Character items like Terminator armor?
Correct.

Normally I'd change it like a shot, but as I said I'm sure I saw the
question answered differently elsewhere. Can anyone corroborate this?

Thanks.


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Xaxier wrote:

> Yeh it does, I try and find it, got all the WD Q&A and Chapter approved,
> copy up into a word Doc. Because I got piss off trying to find them.
>

> Tough - if it was in White Dwarf, it overrides what's on the web
> site.

I found it in the W40K 2001 GT Clarifications
page 21 (as counted by acrobat), at the top (the first entry in the
Space Marine section).

The White Dwarf comment is relevant, though, if someone finds an answer
there.

1. The HQ Characters' entry states that they are Independent
Characters unless accompanied by a Bodyguard. The Armory
section then goes on to list items, and note that many
can only be taken by an Independent Character. If the HQ
character does take a bodyguard, then is he no longer an
Independent Character and therefore cannot take those
Independent Character items like Terminator armor.

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> Currently in the 40k files, if you're an Independent Character you
> can take Artificer or Terminator Armour - even if you then take a
> Command Squad. Is this correct?

Taking a Command squad doesnt stop a character from getting IC-only
equipment.


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At 19:38 11/03/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> > Currently in the 40k files, if you're an Independent Character you
> > can take Artificer or Terminator Armour - even if you then take a
> > Command Squad. Is this correct?
>
>Taking a Command squad doesnt stop a character from getting IC-only
>equipment.

Yes, but *where* does it say that? We all seem to know it, and know that
we've read it somewhere, but where?



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> Yes, but *where* does it say that? We all seem to know it, and
> know that we've read it somewhere, but where?

IIRC, it was part of one of the very first WD Q&A sessions.


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> Tough - if it was in White Dwarf, it overrides what's on the web site.

Damn straight!! Well said.


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> The thing is the new Q&A does said you cant.

I trust official answers :-)


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At 20:12 11/03/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>The thing is the new Q&A does said you cant.

Tough - if it was in White Dwarf, it overrides what's on the web site.


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