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mirtos
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Old August 26th, 2014, 01:06 PM
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Unless someone here has the initiative to create it using the Authoring kit then I highly doubt we will ever see it. WOTC has chosen another company to make a program exactly like HL for 5th Edition.
WOTC has a pretty horrible track record when it comes to software (stemming all the way back the the "character creator" that was included in 3.0 books. We shall see.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 02:16 PM
I have no doubt that if enough people end up playing 5e, there will be a community supported system in Hero Lab for it - but you won't find anything 'official'.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 06:27 PM
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I have no doubt that if enough people end up playing 5e, there will be a community supported system in Hero Lab for it - but you won't find anything 'official'.
So far there hasn't been any Open licensing on 5th. The OGL for 4th didn't emerge from WotC until 4e was dead production-wise. We might be waiting awhile. It is likely a community data set will be necessary if this system is to happen in hero lab.

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Old August 31st, 2014, 03:07 PM
I would be very sad if I could not use HeroLab with 5th. I love HeroLab and do not see myself buying into their Morningstar all in one roduct. I have been burned twice by WotC's digital efforts. I would rather stick to pen and paper if I could not use HeroLab.
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Old August 31st, 2014, 07:06 PM
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I would be very sad if I could not use HeroLab with 5th. I love HeroLab and do not see myself buying into their Morningstar all in one roduct. I have been burned twice by WotC's digital efforts. I would rather stick to pen and paper if I could not use HeroLab.
Started my 5th ed. game this weekend, and yeah, I really wish there was HeroLab support for 5E. +1 for hoping this happens.
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Old August 31st, 2014, 11:22 PM
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I would be very sad if I could not use HeroLab with 5th. I love HeroLab and do not see myself buying into their Morningstar all in one roduct. I have been burned twice by WotC's digital efforts. I would rather stick to pen and paper if I could not use HeroLab.
If those tactics really upset you, why buy 5e anyway?
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Old September 1st, 2014, 12:36 PM
Cant speak for Dafrca - but it doesnt sound like like Dafrca feels they are "tactics", just that they dont do good digital products. I also dont think digital products, or the lack thereof is a reason to play or not play a Pen and Paper RPG.

Do I wish that it worked with HeroLab - of course. Am I going to boycott a game because it doesnt have a license for it? Nope. I play plenty of other games that dont.

Personally, I have other issues that I dont like WOTC, but I actually think, so far, that their 5e is a not bad product, and as a whole will be good for the hobby.
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Old September 1st, 2014, 04:44 PM
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If those tactics really upset you, why buy 5e anyway?
I bought 5E personally because the wife wanted to as well. I too have been burned by WotC and their poor software when it comes to character creation systems. I have to say Morningstar is something I am not really looking forward to with their software knowing full well it is going to be subscription based. (based again on WotC's track record). So Fuzzy you wanted an explanation from him, you are getting one from me.

I want it for Hero Lab because I hate WotC's software practices. I have a lot of issues with WotC in general. I have been a gamer now for 40 years with D&D. I have worked for both TSR and WotC in one form or another and I quit on my own terms. Fortunately I am glad I am not part of the engine that they have going now and their lack of a good customer service like another company I know.

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Old September 1st, 2014, 05:22 PM
My main point was that Paizo's policies are so much more friendly, which is the main reason I am going to stick to them. The game system is not the most important part of an RPG, so if I can play one that most freely lets me use it however i choose (Hero Lab, online documentation, etc), then i will continue to do so. People who complain about WotC, yet still buy the products, are WHY they haven't changed their ways.
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Old September 1st, 2014, 10:15 PM
Fuzzy; you clearly have read so much more into my post than is there.

I feel a company can make a bad product once in a while or fail to maintain a marginal one and not be bad. They can have a particular line that I believe is not good and still not be a bad company.

Paizo has produced some products I love and some I dislike. The fact that I disliked some of Paizo's products, per your way of thinking, should stop me from buying any more of their products. Is this really what you think?

As Mirtos said, and was right, I don't feel WotC is good at digital products. Both of their last two attempts at a character generation program has failed in my opinion. If they were really smart they would admit digital is not their strong suit and work with an existing product that has stood the test of time, like HeroLab. But that is just my opinion of course.

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