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July 13th, 2005, 12:37 AM
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Misc bugs: in the footnotes, Appers this (more or less):
"Musician: you win the combat by +1 if tie" There should be added: "rally attempt + 1" as well! Orc and goblins The Big Un rule is worng: Orc Archers should be counted as normal Orc during count. If u put 20 Orc Archers, then you should be able to put 20 Big Uns as well... I don't think that the rules applies only to Orc Boyz |
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July 13th, 2005, 02:51 PM
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In the original rules you had to have Boyz to make another Boyz unit Big 'Unz but this was changed through errata (can't remember where) to include Arrer Boyz as well as regular Boyz for a normal Big 'Unz unit...
And of course they don't all have to be in the same unit so a unit of 10 Arrer and a unit of 10 Boyz allows a unit of 20 Orc Boyz Big 'Unz... |
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July 18th, 2005, 01:54 PM
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since 2 of you remember it, i will add that. :-)
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July 19th, 2005, 08:45 AM
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Well the issue of the musician is a clear mistake, that MUST be fixed :lol:
About the Big 'uns... uhm... actually I have a doubt if my objection is right... Exactly, in what book did you find that correction (@ Deathlynx)? 'cos in the Army List book (2003), reading accurately, it seems that only Boyz count for the total number of Big 'uNs... |
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July 23rd, 2005, 05:28 AM
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Ok.. i've read again (and again) the rules, now I'm 100% sure.
Arrer Boyz DO COUNT for big Uns. The rules quote: "you must have the same number of Orcs of the same type". They intend normal orcs or Savage orcs: also savage orcs can become Big Uns. no problems instead for boar-mounted orcs: mounted orcs - mounted big uns, mounted savage orcs - mounted savage big uns. I think that this is the most objective and correct interpretation of the rule. If someone has still doubts... mail GW! |
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July 23rd, 2005, 01:15 PM
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As I said I don't know where the ruling is from...You're right according to the Armybook but I think it was errata that came out on the GW forums after the 2004 Chronicals came out...
I do know I've seen this used at tournies and in leagues though...*shrug*... |
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July 24th, 2005, 12:42 AM
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then I've got an idea: put an extra option to enable/disable this rule
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July 25th, 2005, 10:13 AM
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From Direwolf FAQ
-- Q. If I want to field a unit of Big'Uns, what does "type" refer to in the statement from the O&G book, "Whichever type of unit you choose to upgrade you must have at least as many normal models of that type"? A. Each of the four listed units is a distinct type: Orc Boyz, Savage Orc Boyz, Orc Boar Boyz or Savage Orc Boar Boyz. E.g., in order to field a unit of 30 Orc Boyz Big'Uns, you must field at least 30 normal Orc Boyz - either 1 unit of 30, a unit of 20 and a unit of 10, etc. In order to field a unit of 10 Savage Orc Boar Boyz Big'Uns, you must have at least 10 Savage Orc Boar Boyz in the army, etc. S. Orcs & Goblins Army Book page 6 -- In other words, Orc Boyz with bows count as normal Orc Boyz for purposes of taking Big 'Uns. |
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July 25th, 2005, 12:34 PM
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ok it's official then. The roster file must be updated
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July 27th, 2005, 10:07 PM
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i draw a totally different conclusion! :-) the ruling there states that 'orc boyz' is a specific type, and that only 'normal' orc boyz count. arrer boyz are hardly normal orcs, they dont always run toward the enemy as fast as they can!
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