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Am I the only guy that has been waiting for an update for Lord of the
Rings? If so then maybe I can help. I have - using the previous authors info - prepared an update that I think is useable. I DID change some of the previous authors (ie; Helm's Deep author) information and updated some of the card data that I thought was incorrect and 'fixed' accents on various names/text of various cards. Further - I noticed when going thru the previous/current db (lotr2.4 from APRIL 2003)that some information on Unique cards was missing - and updated that info. (ie; Aragorn - Ranger of the North was not listed as Unique ((the dot)) there were others as well). What I don't know is that if someone was to use my update if that would trash their inventory. I suspect so but don't know for sure. In either case - IMHO the data was incorrect. Rightly or wrongly I have - I believe - updated the information. So the question/s as follows: Is someone already doing all this? I don't particularly wish to step on anyones toes over this. If not - should I post my version - I have called it lotrV3.0. I wouldn't mind being the author if no one else wants it. Though I have a full time job I don't believe that too much time would go by between updates. AND finally, should I post it? If so how do I go about doing this? Some feedback would be extremely helpful. Thanx Dizpatcher ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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At 09:21 PM 2/09/2003, beszhak" <dizpatch@gte.net> wrote:
>Am I the only guy that has been waiting for an update for Lord of the >Rings? Nope. >If so then maybe I can help. I have - using the previous authors >info - prepared an update that I think is useable. I DID change some From what I can determine there are 2 independent authors for LotR in Card Vault, which doesn't seem to make sense. One of them sent me his latest data files some time back, and the other offered to let me take over. I think "the powers that be" ought to take control of this, and let us know who the author is, and when an official update can be expected (please....) R. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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--- In cardvault@yahoogroups.com, "beszhak" <dizpatch@g...> wrote:
> Am I the only guy that has been waiting for an update for Lord of the > Rings? > I've been waiting for it for quite some time now... ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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I'm up for my annual renewal of Card Vault, and if Lone Wolf can't
take the time to pay someone to do this on a regular basis (offer them free license, something else, etc), it seems that I can probably do better to just wait for World's Appart Collection Manager to be complete for LOTR (if it ever comes out). It's frustrating - love the LOTR TCG and I have some of the older, discontinued games, but it seems like this program, with the combination of multiple issues due to me getting a new computer, updates, licensing issues this past year... and now, most importantly, not getting updated card lists - makes me wonder if I should continue it. I love the idea of it, but if the primary product/use of the program is reliant upon volunteers to "step up" each release - just no guarantee of being able to use it for what I need it for. Sorry for the rant - keep up the good discussions! Kaleb... PS. Anyone working on a Middle Earth skin? PPS. I like the "idea" of this program so much I'll probably continue to support it. --- In cardvault@yahoogroups.com, "Russell J. Alphey" <Ralphey@m...> wrote: > At 09:21 PM 2/09/2003, beszhak" <dizpatch@g...> wrote: > > >Am I the only guy that has been waiting for an update for Lord of the Rings? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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Kaleb Michaud wrote:
> I'm up for my annual renewal of Card Vault, and if Lone Wolf can't > take the time to pay someone to do this on a regular basis (offer > them free license, something else, etc), it seems that I can > probably do better to just wait for World's Appart Collection > Manager to be complete for LOTR (if it ever comes out). datafile authors do get a free license. Interested in taking over the LOTR files? send an email to rob bowes. -- Jim Williamson <jim@timewarpcomics.com <mailto:jim@timewarpcomics.com>> TimeWarp Comics & Games (973) 857-9788 www.timewarpcomics.com <http://www.timewarpcomics.com> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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The problem with LotR is that Decipher has thus far declined to give us
permission to work on the data files ourselves. While this is speculation, my guess is that they see us as potential competition to Worlds Apart, even though I believe the two products could complement each other quite well. The net result of this is that we have to find a volunteer to do it. The person who originally did all the LotR files ran into personal time constraints that forced him to stop doing the files. Since then, we've not found another volunteer. If anyone is interested in taking over the effort, we'll be happy to offer whatever help we can, but we're unfortunately stuck right now. For the majority of games, we have an established relationship with the publisher. The publisher provides us with the spoiler data directly and we then do the data files. In a variety of cases, volunteers have elected to tackle game systems before we could get to them, and we give them all the support we can, including free product licenses. Unfortunately, for LotR, we don't currently have a volunteer and we aren't able to do the work ourself. I can wholly understand your frustration with the lack of updates. Please realize that it's quite frustrating on our end as well. :-( I hope this explanation helps a bit. If anyone has suggestions on this issue, I'd love to hear them! Thanks, Rob At 03:26 AM 9/4/2003 +0000, you wrote: >I'm up for my annual renewal of Card Vault, and if Lone Wolf can't >take the time to pay someone to do this on a regular basis (offer >them free license, something else, etc), it seems that I can >probably do better to just wait for World's Appart Collection >Manager to be complete for LOTR (if it ever comes out). > >It's frustrating - love the LOTR TCG and I have some of the older, >discontinued games, but it seems like this program, with the >combination of multiple issues due to me getting a new computer, >updates, licensing issues this past year... and now, most >importantly, not getting updated card lists - makes me wonder if I >should continue it. I love the idea of it, but if the primary >product/use of the program is reliant upon volunteers to "step up" >each release - just no guarantee of being able to use it for what I >need it for. > >Sorry for the rant - keep up the good discussions! >Kaleb... > >PS. Anyone working on a Middle Earth skin? > >PPS. I like the "idea" of this program so much I'll probably >continue to support it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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It might help if all of us who use Card Valut for LOTR write to decipher
(and the fan club if you are a member) and complain about this. After all, we use CV to help us with our LOTR collection. Jim Robinson h_james_robinson@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com> Reply-To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com To: cv@support.wolflair.com Subject: Re: [CardVault] Re: Lord of the Rings Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 13:25:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.105]) by mc7-f18 with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:44:08 -0700 Received: from [66.218.66.96] by n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2003 20:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 35455 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2003 20:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Sep 2003 20:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lonewolfdevel.com) (64.118.101.179) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2003 20:22:31 -0000 Received: from vimes.wolflair.com ([192.168.1.42]) by lonewolfdevel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:33:24 -0700 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jHHXVf9gsFZTH9uZecpyPIT X-eGroups-Return: sentto-6557781-1791-1062706953-h_james_robinson=msn.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com X-Sender: rob@wolflair.com X-Apparently-To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20030904130632.02c2dbd8@mail.wolflair. com> X-Sender: rob@mail.wolflair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 In-Reply-To: <bj6be3+ol1i@eGroups.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030902223224.02768ac0@mail.mtgmelb.c om> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2003 20:33:24.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA2FB680:01C37323] X-Yahoo-Profile: lonewolfdevel Mailing-List: list cardvault@yahoogroups.com; contact cardvault-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list cardvault@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:cardvault-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Return-Path: sentto-6557781-1791-1062706953-h_james_robinson=msn.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ _______________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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I have NEVER been able to understand the mindset of some of those Co's.
I have the time - for the most part - and I have the ability - I think. I have created an updated data file for Lord of the Rings. It works for me - but as I stated in a previous msg - I'm concerned that correcting some of the data from older sets would make some peoples inventories get a hiccup. For example - there were several cards in the data files that were supposed to be 'unique' and were not actually listed that way. I have gone back and corrected these items - but it's only been tested on my system. But I didn't have an inventory file (I use CV for deck building and not for inventory - yet) Everything seems fine but I would like for someone to back up all of their data and check out my update. If it checks out and I'm not shown to be a complete idiot then I would enjoy doing the updates. Just tell me what I need to do - who to do it with and I'll get the ball rolling. Again - I would like for someone to check my work first to see if it tracks out ok. Thanx Dizpatcher Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Bowes To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [CardVault] Re: Lord of the Rings The problem with LotR is that Decipher has thus far declined to give us permission to work on the data files ourselves. While this is speculation, my guess is that they see us as potential competition to Worlds Apart, even though I believe the two products could complement each other quite well. The net result of this is that we have to find a volunteer to do it. The person who originally did all the LotR files ran into personal time constraints that forced him to stop doing the files. Since then, we've not found another volunteer. If anyone is interested in taking over the effort, we'll be happy to offer whatever help we can, but we're unfortunately stuck right now. For the majority of games, we have an established relationship with the publisher. The publisher provides us with the spoiler data directly and we then do the data files. In a variety of cases, volunteers have elected to tackle game systems before we could get to them, and we give them all the support we can, including free product licenses. Unfortunately, for LotR, we don't currently have a volunteer and we aren't able to do the work ourself. I can wholly understand your frustration with the lack of updates. Please realize that it's quite frustrating on our end as well. :-( I hope this explanation helps a bit. If anyone has suggestions on this issue, I'd love to hear them! Thanks, Rob At 03:26 AM 9/4/2003 +0000, you wrote: >I'm up for my annual renewal of Card Vault, and if Lone Wolf can't >take the time to pay someone to do this on a regular basis (offer >them free license, something else, etc), it seems that I can >probably do better to just wait for World's Appart Collection >Manager to be complete for LOTR (if it ever comes out). > >It's frustrating - love the LOTR TCG and I have some of the older, >discontinued games, but it seems like this program, with the >combination of multiple issues due to me getting a new computer, >updates, licensing issues this past year... and now, most >importantly, not getting updated card lists - makes me wonder if I >should continue it. I love the idea of it, but if the primary >product/use of the program is reliant upon volunteers to "step up" >each release - just no guarantee of being able to use it for what I >need it for. > >Sorry for the rant - keep up the good discussions! >Kaleb... > >PS. Anyone working on a Middle Earth skin? > >PPS. I like the "idea" of this program so much I'll probably >continue to support it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: cardvault-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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This is great news!!!
We've already got the tool in place to let you check the "safety" of your changes! It's called CVCheck and it's installed along with the Authoring Kit. I recommend doing the following: 1. Install the latest published LotR files into a new folder. You can do this during import by clicking on the "Change" button and specifying a new folder. 2. Run CVCheck on the freshly installed files, doing a Scan. This takes a snapshot of all the critical information that could be inadvertently messed up with changes. 3. Copy all of your changed LotR files into the new folder, overwriting all the old files. 4. Load the files into CV to make sure everything is working correctly. 5. Run CVCheck again, doing a Compare this time. You'll receive a report of anything that has changed that might impact a user's inventory. CVCheck should be used by all data file authors before releasing a new update. This makes it easy to verify that changes to a new release won't mess up things for users, and it takes the uncertainty out of it for the authors. Contact me directly at rob@wolflair.com so that I can get your appropriate information and I can set you up with an author account. You can then release updates to the LotR files automatically, with all users being notified via the updates mechanism. Thanks, Rob At 06:48 PM 9/4/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I have NEVER been able to understand the mindset of some of those Co's. > >I have the time - for the most part - and I have the ability - I think. I >have created an updated data file for Lord of the Rings. It works for me >- but as I stated in a previous msg - I'm concerned that correcting some >of the data from older sets would make some peoples inventories get a >hiccup. For example - there were several cards in the data files that >were supposed to be 'unique' and were not actually listed that way. I >have gone back and corrected these items - but it's only been tested on my >system. But I didn't have an inventory file (I use CV for deck building >and not for inventory - yet) > >Everything seems fine but I would like for someone to back up all of their >data and check out my update. If it checks out and I'm not shown to be a >complete idiot then I would enjoy doing the updates. Just tell me what I >need to do - who to do it with and I'll get the ball rolling. Again - I >would like for someone to check my work first to see if it tracks out ok. > >Thanx > >Dizpatcher Jim --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (559) 658-6995 Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LId...sNAA/WuQolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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