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Old December 4th, 2019, 04:06 PM
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Joe, please don't add information to my request/critique. I'm not referring to 3rd party software. I just want to share between users of HLO.
That may be all you want personally, but as is clear from this thread, others want to export for use in 3rd party software. It is our (Lone Wolf's) job to address not only the features explicitly requested by users in forum threads for their own benefit, but also that of anyone reading who may not be directly responding.
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Old December 6th, 2019, 02:03 PM
Sure, but I can only read what's written. You specifically mentioned 3rd party, which is very different from sharing only between HLO users. I respect that LWD is making decisions on what they think their customers are wanting.
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Old December 6th, 2019, 08:24 PM
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Sure, but I can only read what's written. You specifically mentioned 3rd party, which is very different from sharing only between HLO users. I respect that LWD is making decisions on what they think their customers are wanting.
I think he was also taking into account Boomer's comment (above your first post) who does specifically mention 3rd party software using HLO data.

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Old December 7th, 2019, 05:53 AM
@Dami,
Headslap! Yes, I'd like FG integration too, but I was trying to take baby steps as exchange between the native application shouldn't be that difficult. Sorry I missed that one line.
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Old December 9th, 2019, 11:56 AM
The hinky part of exporting a character from one account to another is the possibility that the character uses resources/add-ons that the receiving account doesn't have.

You run into the same issue even now. Save out a portfolio of a character and email to someone else to import into their copy of HL and watch it puke errors all over the place when they don't have supplement X.

I'm sure that they'd like that to degrade gracefully. How that would be, I have no idea.
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Old December 9th, 2019, 04:59 PM
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The hinky part of exporting a character from one account to another is the possibility that the character uses resources/add-ons that the receiving account doesn't have.

You run into the same issue even now. Save out a portfolio of a character and email to someone else to import into their copy of HL and watch it puke errors all over the place when they don't have supplement X.

I'm sure that they'd like that to degrade gracefully. How that would be, I have no idea.
The way HLC handles it is ugly, but fundamentally sound. Any content you don't have access to in the file will not be loaded, but the rest of the character will load. This of course, can leave the character in an unfinished state, with validations to resolve, etc. The errors you mention aren't fatal, they are the intentional (but admittedly crudely presented) way that HLC resolves this discrepancy. You are perfectly able to use the character after the inaccessible content is automatically removed in this process

HLO will work the same way, albeit with a nicer presentation of the content that won't be loaded.
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Old December 10th, 2019, 01:21 PM
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HLO will work the same way, albeit with a nicer presentation of the content that won't be loaded.
I would be completely happy if it simply listed the supplements that contain the missing content.

So I need Players Companion #15 for the missing feat. Got it!

As it is now, it's all guess-work.
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Old January 10th, 2020, 12:56 PM
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That may be all you want personally, but as is clear from this thread, others want to export for use in 3rd party software. It is our (Lone Wolf's) job to address not only the features explicitly requested by users in forum threads for their own benefit, but also that of anyone reading who may not be directly responding.
HL Classic was used in my campaigns for as long as it's been around. It was so prevalent among my players, if HLC didn't have the item (and I bought into $$$ worth of Pathfinder supplements) the players couldn't have it. But the number one goal was for me to have a repository of everyone's sheets. With .POR files, this was possible.

Today as we play PF2E, I'm less likely to use HLO as it's a standalone tool; I can't import what the players have created. If I updated the player's sheets with XP, items, etc., I could send them their sheets. They were able to immediately import, view the changes, keep notes in the Hero Lab journals, and send it all back.

This isn't about 3rd party anything for me. It's about organization, ease of use, and portability.

In a world where most everything can be saved and imported, this was a backwards step for Lone Wolf Dev and a rather surprising one at that.

Steve

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Old January 11th, 2020, 01:43 PM
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Joe, please don't add information to my request/critique. I'm not referring to 3rd party software. I just want to share between users of HLO.
Essentially it's just JSON out, JSON in, besides validation checks (for funky data) it should be trivial, but that's making assumptions about how they handle their service calls.
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Old January 12th, 2020, 01:03 PM
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Essentially it's just JSON out, JSON in, besides validation checks (for funky data) it should be trivial, but that's making assumptions about how they handle their service calls.
Oh, if software was really this simple! ;-)

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