Shield as a Weapon

[ShadowChemosh]

Originally Posted by blzbob

Thank you for this. When I equip the shield as armor and as a weapon, I get the validation error. As a DM and player I don't have a problem with this but I was wondering if you knew how to fix it.

Never mind, now it's working fine. I don't know what happened but everything is ok.

Hmm. I think I see what is happening actually. If you equip a Shield(as armor), a Shield(as weapon) and one-handed weapon HL will complain correctly as you don't have three hands.

Guess I didn't test everything after all. Will take a look this weekend at it and see if I can correct the error. One way would be to bootstrap the weapons to the shields, but then that would mean that one would always get a Shield Bash weapon when outfitted with a shield. Not something I would want to do as I have to say its more common to NOT shield bash.

Thanks for letting me know and trying it out.

[ShadowChemosh]

So looked into this and I did fix some issues, but the main one I can't figure out how to fix. If one equips and shield and a off-hand HL will complain, but the values it does show are correct.

The other issue I found is that if you don't have the Two-Weapon fighting feat you can't have your printed character sheet show the correct values for when using two weapons.

I uploaded a new version with some fixes to d20pfsrd.

Unless Mathias can point out some hidden tag or something I can use to A) prevent HL from showing an error with a shield and off-hand being equipped and B) to have the printed sheet show the correct values for using two weapons without the two-weapon fighting feat its the best its going to get.

[Lawful_g]

Look at bucklers maybe? They can be equipped along with an off hand weapon.

[ShadowChemosh]

Originally Posted by Lawful_g

Look at bucklers maybe? They can be equipped along with an off hand weapon.

Nice thank you. Don't know how I forgot about those, but that had a tag that stops the errors.

I have uploaded a new version tod20pfsrd. I also put the same fix in for some of the items from the Adventurer's Armory (ie Madu) also.

Thanks

[blzbob]

That did the trick. Awesome! My players are going to be happy. The knight is going to be especially happy.

[Mathias]

Just as a heads up, I've finally gotten shield bashing finished, and added to HL for the next update.

(It took forever, but I've got it properly handling enchanting the attack stats, separately from the defense stats, along with all the shield bashing feats, the bashing power and shield spikes)

[ogexam]

Woot!

[ShadowChemosh]

Originally Posted by Mathias

Just as a heads up, I've finally gotten shield bashing finished, and added to HL for the next update.

Nice!

Will have to take a look to see how you did it so I can mimic it for the Madu shields from AA.

[Mathias]

Actually, I think the Klar is still the best option to copy for the weapon-shields like Klars, Scizore, etc. The options I've created can only be chosen from the shield tab, and the weapon version always shows up in the custom weapons section.

I decided that the light and heavy shields are armor that happens to have a use as a weapon. Users are going to be looking for them on the Armor tab. The Klar/Scizore/etc. are both weapons and armor, and users will want to see them in both places.

[Bishop37]

Will it work sort of like gauntlets do for armor, automatically appearing in the weapons tab when you equip the armor, or will shields be a separate weapon that you have to add and configure?