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Regardless, it doesn't change much at this moment if you're not planning on playing Starfinder. I highly doubt you're going to stop releasing new material for the existing systems that have new published material coming. It's what happens down the line that will matter, starting with how Hero Lab Online works in the field. |
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From my point of view. It's a lose, lose, proposition. Say I pay the $20.00 to migrate my content (which mind you I already paid for) I get to view it only if I choose to stop paying you. So I paid for the core books and now I get to view it, how is that different than just busting out the core book? I use HL to make things and play dynamically at the table, to cut down on math, to get people started in the game quickly by making quick characters. So in your scenario, I can view the licensed content but I can't do anything with it until I pay you more. Just saying there is no value in your deal from my point of view. I get where you are coming from but I don't agree with it. Always online nonsense is always anti-consumer no matter how you slice it. That said, it's a mote point to shout from the hills this early, so I will wait and see what kind of offline features you give us. P.S - Also Starfinder is not unique, it is slightly different; yes ship combat has been added and that is new but not much else. We have two AC's now and some other rules have been dropped, new words to describe old behaviors at best. |
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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The migration fee is the worst part of this. Flat out extortion to access the content some of us have dumped hundreds of dollars into.
I was honestly planning on putting hundreds more into Starfinder. But now I am weighing the sunk cost fallacy in my head and looking for an alternative. |
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* Bad word choice on their part. To me, migration means moving from one thing to the other, but since you keep full access to Classic HL, it's not that. Should change the term to something else to make this clear, I think. |
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There will be no classic version for Starfinder so yes, he would be losing all of his Starfinder content if he doesn't pay the monthly extortion fee. Secondly, we have nothing but a vague "HLC will still work and all of your EXISTING datapacks will work" comment, which leaves them enough wiggle room to stop putting out data packs for HLC and still be telling the truth, yes, HLC will still work, but not if you want to use any material after a certain point. Will they do this? Well, every other buy once use forever system I have ever been involved with that went to a monthly fee eventually converted everything to a monthly fee system so in my experience yes, we should plan on eventually everything moving to a HLO only model. |
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Location: Jersey City
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Despite what LW might say, It'd be very hard for them to resist the eventual temptation to close down the desktop app for the sheer problems of maintaining two parralel products. Especially when one is so much easier to implement and control, and anti-pirate.
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Location: Jersey City
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It's considerably different. It's way more different from Pathfinder than the latter was from 3.5.
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I mean, look, I get the advantage from LWD's POV: they can put out something that's platform agnostic and provides other benefits, simplifies their security issues in some ways, and produces a slow, steady income stream all at once. That doesn't mean anyone else is required to find it an improvement in any way, shape or form, and for some of us, its an active deficit as long as it has no offline mode. |
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