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Hubrice
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Old February 26th, 2014, 11:19 AM
You can also view the idea of a "life-time service" as an investment for both the customer and LW.

LW receives a substantial boost in income upfront that they can use to build infrastructure, coding, etc and whatnot. This is similar to the idea behind the higher KS levels, get more money now to work with even if "in the long run" you lose money by giving away so much down the road. Is the quick burst in income worth lost sales down the road? Only LW can answer that.

Customers are investing a larger amount of money now, in the hopes that they will break even, or come out ahead down the road. But what if LW's business model changes, they get bought out, technology changes impact their servers, or they all win the lottery and decide to buy their own islands and retire? There is risk for the consumer.

Regardless I am looking forward to the public release. It is my hope that once I have the product, deciding to pay for a year or a lifetime upfront is a no-brainer.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 02:42 PM
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Regardless I am looking forward to the public release. It is my hope that once I have the product, deciding to pay for a year or a lifetime upfront is a no-brainer.
When it all comes down to it, this is where I am at also. The final cost will be somewhat irrelevant compared to the perceived value I expect to have.
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Old February 27th, 2014, 06:24 PM
@Jaynay27:

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Not sure what you mean by 'playing around' or 'again'?
Sorry. It just seemed like you were playing around earlier in the posts, like when you said, "Hey no way! I paid for that lifetime/early access as a kickstarter only exclusive offer and no-one should be able to get lifetime access now, blah, blah, blah elitism etc.....just kidding.", so I wasn't sure if you were playing around this time or not.

And I was pretty much just playing around too with the two points that I made. Sort of a friendly rebuttal. I definitely don't want to start an argument or anything!

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One could read that this suggests they may offer lifetime subs at *lower* than top tier cloud access, for new customers, and reserve *top tier* lifetime access for the original backers.
If you weren't playing around, then this sort of made it sound like you're against lifetime subscriptions being offered at the highest levels for those of us who unfortunately missed the KS. I know you did a smiley and all, but from just reading a message, it sometimes makes it a little hard to tell a person's tone. I'm sorry if took it the wrong way. I know overall you seem pretty positive about it this...
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Old February 28th, 2014, 02:34 PM
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@Jaynay27:



Sorry. It just seemed like you were playing around earlier in the posts, like when you said, "Hey no way! I paid for that lifetime/early access as a kickstarter only exclusive offer and no-one should be able to get lifetime access now, blah, blah, blah elitism etc.....just kidding.", so I wasn't sure if you were playing around this time or not.

And I was pretty much just playing around too with the two points that I made. Sort of a friendly rebuttal. I definitely don't want to start an argument or anything!



If you weren't playing around, then this sort of made it sound like you're against lifetime subscriptions being offered at the highest levels for those of us who unfortunately missed the KS. I know you did a smiley and all, but from just reading a message, it sometimes makes it a little hard to tell a person's tone. I'm sorry if took it the wrong way. I know overall you seem pretty positive about it this...
That's cool man - I was having a bad day too and I took it badly...not your fault. So for what it is worth, sorry if my post tone was aggressive/defensive.

We are cool mate and I think we are on the same page regarding the lifetime fee/sub. My stance is the more the merrier, and hope LWD works out a way to help all you guys who missed the KS and have been waiting patiently for 1.0 release.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 07:44 PM
I will say that personally as an Alpha Wolf backer I would be at least a little upset by this if they offered it at any price. This is not because I don't want other people to have it but I would feel like they lied to trick me into paying a lot of money upfront by saying that this was the only way to get lifetime access. I thought long and hard about whether or not it was worth putting up that much money.

I would only be so upset, and I'd get over it but I think it was be a slight image problem for LWD.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:37 PM
Lone Wolf should absolutely be free to offer lifetime services of cloud, but like the others, I would also be annoyed if it was offered at a rate significantly less the the $250.00. You can make an argument that maybe you did the alpha for the early access, but maybe you did it for the cloud. In any case, if I felt that someone was getting the same service as me for less and i put money into a product that I couldnt see but took on faith, and they could see the product before deciding, I would feel my faith had been breached.

I of course feel bad for anyone who missed the kickstarter and would have taken part in it, but everyone has to have a certain amount of self-interest when they consider that amount of money.

just my two cents.

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Old March 19th, 2014, 07:34 PM
It would depend on the price and my budget at the time, but I would be interested in it.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 02:29 PM
Now that Realm Works has been officially released, maybe we'll receive more participation in this thread...
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Old March 29th, 2014, 02:35 PM
Well, I think folks might want to see what they will really be getting with cloud service first, which for the moment only entails syncing your own realms. Maybe once Player View is up and we have the ability to share and/or purchase realms people will have a better idea of what the real value of it is.

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Old March 30th, 2014, 10:59 AM
There are NO IMMEDIATE PLANS on our part to introduce a lifetime license option. We very well could offer something like that at some point in the future, but it's not something we are actively considering. We have a lot on our plate right now, and figuring out how best to structure something like this would take our attention away from other things that we consider much higher priority to the overall success of the product.

Feel free to continue discussing this subject however you wish, since it's valuable for us to know what our users are thinking. However, please don't expect any announcements about this subject in the upcoming weeks.
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