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Bidmaron
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Old January 18th, 2018, 11:31 AM
With you acenoid. I have hero lab offline. We will see how it goes
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Old January 18th, 2018, 11:42 AM
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but what is the big selling point of this online functionality, that I cannot have offline?
For me it's the following:
* Can access characters from any machine
* Can access characters from anywhere
* Can access characters from any device
* Can access my players characters from anywhere
* Can see up to date sheets for my players instantly without needing to chase them for updates

And primarily the reason I'll pay a sub is for point 3 and point 5.

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Old January 18th, 2018, 12:06 PM
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For me it's the following:
* Can access characters from any machine
* Can access characters from anywhere
* Can access characters from any device
* Can access my players characters from anywhere
* Can see up to date sheets for my players instantly without needing to chase them for updates

And primarily the reason I'll pay a sub is for point 3 and point 5.
I am really looking forward to point 5, especially if it is integrated into the tactical console and I can apply buffs/debuffs on the fly to their live character.
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Old January 18th, 2018, 01:33 PM
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For me it's the following:
* Can access characters from any machine
* Can access characters from anywhere
* Can access characters from any device
* Can access my players characters from anywhere
* Can see up to date sheets for my players instantly without needing to chase them for updates

And primarily the reason I'll pay a sub is for point 3 and point 5.
Most of that was already available simply by storing you .por files in a cloud storage service like Dropbox. The only thing HLOL is giving anyone is Android device capability and LWD's decision to only support Starfinder there.

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Old January 18th, 2018, 01:40 PM
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Most of that was already available simply by storing you .por files in a cloud storage service like Dropbox. The only thing HLOL is giving anyone is Android device capability and LWD's decision to only support Starfinder there.
Exactly....
and to add..... unless your group is always "meeting/ playing online" in order to play any RPG Herolab supports, its not like even in "worst cased scenarios" you wont see each other face to face. That method has worked well for 40+ years

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Old January 18th, 2018, 01:50 PM
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Most of that was already available simply by storing you .por files in a cloud storage service like Dropbox. The only thing HLOL is giving anyone is Android device capability and LWD's decision to only support Starfinder there.
You are forgetting the fact that to use a .por file on a computer Herolab needs to be installed. So if I want to play around with a character concept at work on a lunch hour or on business trip I need to purchase another license for hero lab.

One of the real nice benefits of HLO is untying you from archaic licensing model that the desktop app has, and you no longer have to worry about that OS upgrade breaking your install just before the weekend.
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Old January 18th, 2018, 02:11 PM
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you no longer have to worry about that OS upgrade breaking your install just before the weekend.
But you do have to worry about an application update on the web server which breaks the app for EVERYBODY for the weekend.

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Old January 18th, 2018, 02:19 PM
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But you do have to worry about an application update on the web server which breaks the app for EVERYBODY for the weekend.
Don't forget to worry about Vogons building an interstellar highway too.
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Old January 18th, 2018, 02:54 PM
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For me it's the following:
* Can access characters from any machine
* Can access characters from anywhere
* Can access characters from any device
* Can access my players characters from anywhere
* Can see up to date sheets for my players instantly without needing to chase them for updates

And primarily the reason I'll pay a sub is for point 3 and point 5.
Alright I can see that if you are travelling & changing machines a lot HLO might be a good & comfortable choice for you. Like others said, I suppose it is also possible with an offline program to accomplish most of these points - unlesss the software publisher doesn't impose other restrictions on the end user.

Well I hope the trend will go to more consumer choice again one day. I like to be the "owner" of my electronical device and being forced into the cloud I no longer feel like that. It's always good to have the option!

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Old January 18th, 2018, 02:57 PM
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You are forgetting the fact that to use a .por file on a computer Herolab needs to be installed. So if I want to play around with a character concept at work on a lunch hour or on business trip I need to purchase another license for hero lab.

One of the real nice benefits of HLO is untying you from archaic licensing model that the desktop app has, and you no longer have to worry about that OS upgrade breaking your install just before the weekend.
?

HL comes with 2 licenses. I have it installed on my desktop and on my laptop.

I have never had an OS upgrade break HL on my laptop.

I agree there might be some advantages to HLOL, eventually, but I doubt they are worth the time, effort and delays of other projects LWD is causing themselves right now. This strikes me as especially true since they are not taking the opportunity to implement a real scripting language.

They would be better served from a PR sense getting the CM deployed and then dealing with HLOL after they had that done.

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