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Old August 20th, 2001, 11:44 AM
Colen,

Devastator and tactical squad selections for lootas allows them to take
either rhinos or razorbacks. Under looted vehicle they are permitted
smoke launchers but not under the lootas option. Is there a reason for
this? I assume that if the smoke launchers are an option (like indirect
fire) that they can take it, especially as it appears under the looted
vehicle options.

Being a sad individual I can field any combination of the ork devastator
squad and it has been fun looking at my opponents face when his
landraider dies to them. A razorback with lascannon and TL plasma guns
should also help wipe the complacent smile off of his face Mind you
the twin heavy blotter is nice enough against lighter targets. Throw in
3 looted vanilla rhinos and I'll call it Ork marine. So two loot squads
with transports and 3 looted rhinos should be an amusing variant for my
opponent. Not cheap but amusing.

Cheers

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Old August 20th, 2001, 11:58 AM
> Devastator and tactical squad selections for lootas allows them to take
> either rhinos or razorbacks. Under looted vehicle they are permitted
> smoke launchers but not under the lootas option. Is there a reason for
> this? I assume that if the smoke launchers are an option (like indirect
> fire) that they can take it, especially as it appears under the looted
> vehicle options.

Lootas can use the *options* from certain SM/IG squads - vehicles arent an
*option*. Look at the relevent entries in either C:SM or C:IG and see.


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Old August 20th, 2001, 08:46 PM
--- In armybuilder@y..., "-= JIMI =-" <james.tubman@b...> wrote:
> Lootas can use the *options* from certain SM/IG squads - vehicles
arent an
> *option*. Look at the relevent entries in either C:SM or C:IG and
see.
>
>
> Jimi
>

>From the UK GT Clarifications:

"Lootas may take the transport option from a squad."

And from the online Q&A:

"Can Lootas take the transport option from a squad?
Yes they can."

Which is why Colen allows Lootas to take the squads vehicle options
in the 40K files.
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Old August 21st, 2001, 04:37 AM
> >From the UK GT Clarifications:
>
> "Lootas may take the transport option from a squad."

Only applies to the UKGT and not normal 40k play.

> And from the online Q&A:
>
> "Can Lootas take the transport option from a squad?
> Yes they can."

Has this been printed in a WD issue?? If not then I can safely ignore it as
a pile of crap.

> Which is why Colen allows Lootas to take the squads vehicle options
> in the 40K files.

AB datafiles follow the codex/rulebook and OFFICIAL clarifications. If it
aint official then it should be removed.


Jimi, another example of GW idiots not following their own rules

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Old August 21st, 2001, 05:26 AM
At 20:55 20/08/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> > Devastator and tactical squad selections for lootas allows them to take
> > either rhinos or razorbacks. Under looted vehicle they are permitted
> > smoke launchers but not under the lootas option. Is there a reason for
> > this? I assume that if the smoke launchers are an option (like indirect
> > fire) that they can take it, especially as it appears under the looted
> > vehicle options.
>
>Lootas can use the *options* from certain SM/IG squads - vehicles arent an
>*option*. Look at the relevent entries in either C:SM or C:IG and see.

It was specifically stated in a Q&A that transport vehicles are allowed, so
I've added them in. Since they're from the 'black codex' armies, they
should be allowed Smoke Launchers.


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Old August 21st, 2001, 05:26 AM
At 13:35 21/08/2001 +0100, you wrote:

> > Which is why Colen allows Lootas to take the squads vehicle options
> > in the 40K files.
>
>AB datafiles follow the codex/rulebook and OFFICIAL clarifications. If it
>aint official then it should be removed.

Anything printed in the Q&A is also incorporated - for example, Chaos
Rhinos get Combi-Bolters instead of Storm Bolters because of this.


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Old August 21st, 2001, 05:33 AM
> >AB datafiles follow the codex/rulebook and OFFICIAL clarifications. If it
> >aint official then it should be removed.
>
> Anything printed in the Q&A is also incorporated - for example, Chaos
> Rhinos get Combi-Bolters instead of Storm Bolters because of this.

IIRC, this was clarified in a White Dwarf issue and thus is official - 95%
of the online Q&A aint.


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Old August 21st, 2001, 05:36 AM
> It was specifically stated in a Q&A that transport vehicles are allowed,
so
> I've added them in.

Is this the infamous online Q&A or a WD printed one??

> Since they're from the 'black codex' armies, they
> should be allowed Smoke Launchers.

'black codex'??


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Old August 21st, 2001, 09:14 AM
----- Original Message -----
From: "-= JIMI =-" <james.tubman@btinternet.com>

> 'black codex'??

The "black codex" is the lists at the back of the main rulebook. The main
rulebook is black.

-Shawn
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Old August 21st, 2001, 09:30 AM
At 14:34 21/08/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> > It was specifically stated in a Q&A that transport vehicles are allowed,
>so
> > I've added them in.
>
>Is this the infamous online Q&A or a WD printed one??

The "infamous" online Q&A, I'm afraid. Why is it infamous?

> > Since they're from the 'black codex' armies, they
> > should be allowed Smoke Launchers.
>
>'black codex'??

Basic rulebook lists, i.e. not the codex.


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