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I am just hoping that lone wolf will finish the 4E files set before the information is removed from the DDI, and fix the final books, races and classes ect before the final plug is pulled on the game!
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In any case, I doubt that anything would happen with this for at least another month or two (getting close to the projected shut-down time of the official character builder, as I understand it). Realm Works will likely get all the attention for a while yet. |
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I really hope that LW can get a break to finish these files before the DDI info goes black which I fear may be shortly after the new year since Dragon and Dungeon are coming to a shut down soon.
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My understanding is that they will keep up the 4E stuff for a while… But with the official announcement that Next will have a summer 2014 release, I don't expect to see them up past that.
I had really hoped that HL would get everything into conformance with the official 4E material before then. It doesn't seem likely based upon the last few posts I've seen. And so it is highly unlikely that I will purchase it. I have the old offline builder with CBLoader that seems to function and also seems to have a large support base. I just think the character sheets it creates are not very easy to read. But it is functional and seems to do all of the math correctly, so I'll just keep using that. |
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My DDI subscription runs out in late February. If they pull the data before that subscription runs out, then I'm going to demand they give me part of my money back - which I believe they know everyone will do that and why they won't pull the info completely like that.
Honestly the biggest thing that I will miss from DDI is the ease of being able to change monster levels to fit your dungeon. That was to me the most helpful feature in there - especially since there's such a limited amount of characters you can save there. Dragon and Dungeon, to me, haven't made a real impact to most of my games since 3.0. They were nice but for the most part I'd skip through the info and never look back. It was nice, though, that they'd take items, powers, etc out of those issues and put them into the system. D&D Next was supposed to be a system that you could take characters and modules from any other D&D system and easily incorporate into those rules. With all of the info in their 4e database, you'd think they'd consider that to be valuable if that was the case. Now they're also apparently looking to have people download their content (and pay for it online) instead of supplying stores with books and gaming packages - which was a reason for hobby stores to host their games in the first place. So not only do they get that potential income, but folks will have to print their own materials now too. Personally, from everything I'm reading about it, D&D Next seems to be more of a source of frustration for folks than any other change I've experienced (and I've played since Basic - I'm 45). I'm taking my info out of the DDI system and moving it over to Hero Lab - whether or not HL continues to update 4e doesn't matter for that. What I want for now is a source I can trust with my data. We'll see what the future holds for D&D in the future....I'm really curious what they're going to do with the game more than what HL is planning on doing. I'm sure they'll update if there is info that should be in their system that's out there - the real question to me is if there is ever going to be anything for 4e past the DDI download I put into HL today. -Drake |
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PghDrake you can find some community update material here (if you did not know) Herolab D&D 4e Themes and Bug Fixes: http://hl4e.cryptoknight.org
Cryptoknight has been working hard, with others to fix issues with HL 4E I think that NEXT had abandon the "modular" plug in the material edition, they have gone to a "stream line rules" that "takes the best part of every edition" and makes it into NEXT. I am also (just shy) of 45 and have played every version from basic up to and including (Demo tested NEXT, and still wish I could have that time back!) but I will not be purchasing nor playing NEXT. |
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They have already dozens of Bugreports from me (as well as the bugfixes from them - which again would require manual implementation), but they cannot put them out, due to the licence issue. I did asked them when there is the chance they could implement my bugfixes, and basically I was told that currently it is impossible due to licence situation, so they just put the information+code I provided to their bugtracking system for now (maybe there is a better chance for them getting a licence once D&D Next is released? I hope so) So I think 4e support will stay like it is - the automatic download + community fixes. The fixes are good enough for playing though (I used the stuff for many months, occassionally adding another fix for some magic item or feat or such). As to "pulling the data from DDI" I doubt WotC will do this any time soon. I think they always had customers using various versions of D&D and they do not lose anyting by keeping the data up and running. This is at least what I would expect. That they just leave the data up but no longer modify it. Cannot know for sure if I am right on this, of course ^^ MagicSN |
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Magic, if the code fixes and bug reports won't be acted upon by LW.
Put the stuff up at my site (provided there's something you haven't put there). I'll host it (at least until WotC sends me a C&D at which point I don't know what we'll do). Working on Twilight 2000 4e HL System |
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I only sent bugfixes to them also in parallel to putting it on your site. At the start I still had not understood that they CANNOT include manual implementations for 4e due to licence issues. I already uploaded all fixes I have to your sites (thanks for the work of organizing all this!)
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RavenX Pronouns: She/Her Please do not PM me to inquire about datafiles I coded "for personal use" such as Exalted, World of Darkness, AD&D, or Warhammer 40K Roleplaying. I appreciate your interest, but I do not own the Intellectual Property rights to these game systems. Nor do I have permission from any of the Publishers to distribute the data files. As such, I cannot distribute the work I have done with community on these files. They are "for personal use" only. Thank you. I am far too busy these days to answer emails. If you message me here there is no guarantee I will get back to you at all. |
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