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armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Lord of the Rings From: stevenjcox@cableinet.co.uk 2. Re: and other Emperor's Children stuff.... From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> 3. Re: Noise Marine Termies From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> 4. Enquiring minds... From: "diponio" <DiPonio@voyager.net> 5. items and options and other Qs From: tfb@sof.ws 6. Re: Enquiring minds... From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> 7. RE: Enquiring minds... From: "diponio" <DiPonio@voyager.net> 8. Re: Enquiring minds... From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> 9. RE: Enquiring minds... From: "diponio" <DiPonio@voyager.net> 10. Re: Inter Option Dependance From: cmanos@crt.xerox.com __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 14:21:52 -0000 From: stevenjcox@cableinet.co.uk Subject: Lord of the Rings The files should be available shortly. I've e-mailed Rob, and am just waiting for his reply before I post them. Steve __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:47:26 -0800 From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> Subject: Re: and other Emperor's Children stuff.... > The Cultist Demagouge does not have the option to take a Mark of > Slaanesh listed Already noted. > An Aspiring Champion in a bike squad does not get and extra attack > for having a Mark of Slaanesh.... is that correct? Already noted. > And would it be possible to have the demon types have the > Slaaneshi "option" selected as a default since it is the only choise > availible to Emperor's Children..... Already noted. Please see the 40k3 Datafiles website. Shawn 'Not Colen' Campbell 40k3@electricstitch.com http://www.electricstitch.com/ab_files (submit bug reports and view history) __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:32:02 -0800 From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> Subject: Re: Noise Marine Termies Special squad weapons are only available to normal squad members and not the character. (see codex). Shawn 'Not Colen' Campbell 40k3@electricstitch.com http://www.electricstitch.com/ab_files (submit bug reports and view history) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Fuhrman" <mop@cybergap.net> > Noise marine Terminator aspiring champions are currently unable to > take noise marine weapons..... is this correct? > > Kevin "MoP" Fuhrman __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:29:49 -0500 From: "diponio" <DiPonio@voyager.net> Subject: Enquiring minds... Hello Shawn, First off, glad that you took over the responsibilities of the 40K files, have always wondered who would do it if Mr. Skrill passed away into the realms of the 'real world' =] Now onto my question, I have been mulling this over for a few weeks now and am very curious about a change that you made when you took over the 40K datafiles. Why is it that you made Cultists available for armies such as: Iron Warrior Army Night Lords Army World Eaters Army I can understand them being available to a Chaos Army, but not one of the above... Thanks, Curious as to your reasoning as it says "any Chaos Army", and not 'Any army of Chaos". Thanks TP __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 22:15:32 -0000 From: tfb@sof.ws Subject: items and options and other Qs is there a techinal faq for abc? like "how do i do this..." etc? the registration faq doesnt help me much on that side of things  .now my main question. being the beginner i am with abc i'd like to know how i can link options and items. heres what i mean. troopA can choose any item they want, however if its not a weapon then i need optionA, optionB, and optionC to appear. also, they can choose upto five things from A+B+C if the options are there for them. i know how to set range and ocat (for troops that have the same a+b+c validation). but how do i make this all work together for troopA? acutally while i'm here lemme bug you guys with this too ...troopB has only 1 model in it but needs to have 3 option choices. how do i get ocat to force exatcly 3 choices? do i use something else? right now i have 2 lines of ocat with the ratio of 0:3 and 3:0. thanks guys and i hope this was clear :P __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:43:43 -0800 From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> Subject: Re: Enquiring minds... > Now onto my question, I have been mulling this over for a few weeks now > and am very curious about a change that you made when you took over the > 40K datafiles. Why is it that you made Cultists available for armies > such as: For the same reasons VDR is allowed and all space marine chapters get the Land Raider Crusader. Shawn 'Not Colen' Campbell 40k3@electricstitch.com http://www.electricstitch.com/ab_files (submit bug reports and view history) __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:21:34 -0500 From: "diponio" <DiPonio@voyager.net> Subject: RE: Enquiring minds... What? -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Campbell [mailto:shawn@electricstitch.com] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 7:44 PM To: ab@support.wolflair.com Subject: Re: [AB] Enquiring minds... > Now onto my question, I have been mulling this over for a few weeks now > and am very curious about a change that you made when you took over the > 40K datafiles. Why is it that you made Cultists available for armies > such as: For the same reasons VDR is allowed and all space marine chapters get the Land Raider Crusader. Shawn 'Not Colen' Campbell 40k3@electricstitch.com http://www.electricstitch.com/ab_files (submit bug reports and view history) To unsubscribe from this group, email armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 21:11:23 -0800 From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com> Subject: Re: Enquiring minds... Okay, I was in a bit of a rush... I'll be more specific. The wording in the IA articles, for both Chaos and Imperial Space Marines is: "[insert chapter] use the following units from Codex (Chaos) Space Marines." and "The following rules and Codex changes apply when using [insert chapter] army." The Chaos Cultists and Vehicle Design Rules are chapter approved additions. The Land Raider Crusader is from Codex: Armageddon. The article only shows which units from Codex (Chaos) Space Marine that can be used. The chapter approved and Codex: Armageddon are "in addition to" the codex. In the Chapter Approved Compilation, it is stated: For Cultists, "Any Chaos Space Marine army may include units of Chaos Cultists..." I think Emperor's Children, Night Lords, World Eaters, etc... all count as "Chaos Space Marine armys". I didn't find a specific quote for VDR, but basically any army may have VDR vehicles (with opponent permission), even though the IA article doesn't mention it. It doesn't make any sense to limit VDR to only Strict Codex armies. In Codex: Armageddon, it is stated: For Land Raider Crusader, "Other Space Marine Chapters may take Crusader pattern Land Raiders, but their greater rarity outside the Black Templars Chapter means that other Chapters are limited to having a maximum of only one." If all chapters have access to LRC's, then they should be allowed to the IA chapters as well. So, as I stated, for the same reason as VDR and the Land Raider Crusader, Cultists are allowed in ANY chaos army. Shawn 'Not Colen' Campbell 40k3@electricstitch.com http://www.electricstitch.com/ab_files (submit bug reports and view history) > What? > > Now onto my question, I have been mulling this over for a few weeks > now > > and am very curious about a change that you made when you took over > the > > 40K datafiles. Why is it that you made Cultists available for armies > > such as: > > For the same reasons VDR is allowed and all space marine chapters get > the > Land Raider Crusader. __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 01:03:50 -0500 From: "diponio" <DiPonio@voyager.net> Subject: RE: Enquiring minds... -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Campbell [mailto:shawn@electricstitch.com] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:11 AM To: ab@support.wolflair.com Subject: Re: [AB] Enquiring minds... Okay, I was in a bit of a rush... I'll be more specific. /me =Sounds Good.... /end me The wording in the IA articles, for both Chaos and Imperial Space Marines is: "[insert chapter] use the following units from Codex (Chaos) Space Marines." and "The following rules and Codex changes apply when using [insert chapter] army." The Chaos Cultists and Vehicle Design Rules are chapter approved additions. /me ==There is a difference, VDR is optional, where Cultists are additional rules. /end me The Land Raider Crusader is from Codex: Armageddon. The article only shows which units from Codex (Chaos) Space Marine that can be used. The chapter approved and Codex: Armageddon are "in addition to" the codex. In the Chapter Approved Compilation, it is stated: For Cultists, "Any Chaos Space Marine army may include units of Chaos Cultists..." /me ==Exactly, Any |Chaos Space Marine Army| (look at the cover of the Chaos Codex, "Chaos Space Marines", then look on page 4 at the top "Chaos Space Marine Army." That is what we are talking about. Look at the heading of any of the below mentioned Legions and you will see "Iron Warriors Army, Night Lords Army, etc. None of them say "Chaos Space Marine Army." And if they had their own 32 page codex, I would bet that on the cover it would say : Codex: Iron Warriors or something. /end Me I think Emperor's Children, Night Lords, World Eaters, etc... all count as "Chaos Space Marine armys". /me ==That's cool with me, but there is only one place where you can build a "Chaos Space Marine Army" and that is by using "Codex : Chaos Space Marines" Otherwise you are building a World Eaters Army, or a Night Lords Army. I will not argue that the NL, WE, ETC are OF chaos, but they are not listed as Chaos Space Marine Armies. /end me I didn't find a specific quote for VDR, but basically any army may have VDR vehicles (with opponent permission), even though the IA article doesn't mention it. It doesn't make any sense to limit VDR to only Strict Codex armies. In Codex: Armageddon, it is stated: For Land Raider Crusader, "Other Space Marine Chapters may take Crusader pattern Land Raiders, but their greater rarity outside the Black Templars Chapter means that other Chapters are limited to having a maximum of only one." If all chapters have access to LRC's, then they should be allowed to the IA chapters as well. So, as I stated, for the same reason as VDR and the Land Raider Crusader, Cultists are allowed in ANY chaos army. /me Well, your creating the datafiles, so your interpretation is what will rule the day, but I must say, that you are incorrect. Cultists are not allowed in any |Chaos Army|, they are allowed in any |Chaos Space Marine Army|. Again, thanks for working on the datafiles, I just am not looking forward to having to explain this to every person I play that takes the AB files as law =] Not that it will be much of a problem for long...soon we shall have the Codex for all of this and then there shall be no grey area. Anyway, just wanted to hear your take on this. Good Hunting TP /end me Shawn 'Not Colen' Campbell 40k3@electricstitch.com http://www.electricstitch.com/ab_files (submit bug reports and view history) > What? > > Now onto my question, I have been mulling this over for a few weeks > now > > and am very curious about a change that you made when you took over > the > > 40K datafiles. Why is it that you made Cultists available for armies > > such as: > > For the same reasons VDR is allowed and all space marine chapters get > the > Land Raider Crusader. To unsubscribe from this group, email armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 12:28:08 -0000 From: cmanos@crt.xerox.com Subject: Re: Inter Option Dependance doesn't seem to work with the rang function. I'll try it again > Why not give A the attribute over:B=deselect and B the attribute > over:A=deselect? > > -- > 'Not Colin' McAlister | License to Skrill > Email: demandred@s... | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today! > -----------------------------+------------------------------------ > "Dovie'andi se tovya sagain" - Robert Jordan's Wheel Of Time __________________________________________________ ______________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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