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TY for all the replys. DLG, reading your earlier post is what prompted my thoughts of switching. I am not unhappy with my projector, as it is a short throw HD projector. It amazed me the difference in picture quality and lamp power (for lighted room) between my first and second projector. I would have to get about a 78" flat screen to get the same viewing area, about 55"X55", or multiple smaller screens. I think I will Watch and listen to the community and let my projector get a little older before I spend the $$$.
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Has anyone looked into using a short-throw on the floor with rear projection?
I'm not sure what sort of size that would end up at, but it would remove all of the issues relating to shadows and ceiling mounts. |
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If you have to go through the trouble with a projector on the floor, mirror, boxing it in so you don't kick it (and loose leg room), I think a TV is a better solution. I know my Short Throw projector was 1,100 bucks, and you can get a 4k 50" TV for less than that. (Sister got one for 600$ on black friday deal). I think the 4K TV's will end up being really nice options, considering just a 1080p Projector is still expensive, comparative wise. -Jamz RPTools.net | MapTool Discord Invite Download Latest MapTool Release | Download Latest TokenTool Release |
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*** Lengthy Rebuttal for Clarity** Through several different attempts with a Viewsonic PJD2121. General Info>
Direct projection from undertable.
Attempt #2> Reflection undertable.
Attempt #3>
So, I went with above table projection, only to find I couldn't see finer detail on some maps due to lights being on in the room during game play. All projection is effected by the amount of ambient light in the room vs the amount of contrast and lumen they produce. It varies from projector to projector and personal taste. After several game sessions we abandoned the projector for the embedded TVs (as noted in my earlier posts). The end result (currently hehe) is a table 11'x3'6" with a display surface of 24"x84". At first I thought the 2' wide display would be too narrow, but after several months I have found it works well because it leaves 9" on either side of the screen for books and dice trays, etc. and I can scroll the maps used quite easily. A comparable projection application would have required the throw length to be 7' (thus making table heights difficult) and 5'6" wide (which my game room would not comfortably support) and still not address lighting issues or text displayed if mirrored. Some helpful links in reference to this http://www.projectorcentral.com/View...calculator.htm http://www1.viewsonic.com/products/archive/pjd2121.htm D20Pro's partnership with Mesa Mundi see a lot of possibilities for the table top gamer... So I am considering this> http://mesamundi.com/collections/mul...uch-overlay-84 This as others have noted is about the cost of a low end 4k TV but would give you touch capability. And as a D20pro user / developer, I was hopeful of the RW partnership as well, but frankly, RW just struggles to deliver on their own target goals, so you can't tie too many "hopes" on what they do. I hope you find this helpful DLG |
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Hey everyone, it's been a while since the last post but I wanted to share my journey with you as well. We were gaming in a living room and I built a table to house the computer that would wheel around, it was connected to the TV which we would use to run Maptool. When I heard about realm works I began working on a few other hair brained schemes. My first was a projector. I tried finding a way to make the projector shoot from the ceiling but since it wasn't my house that became somewhat problematic. Instead I would up building a table out of Plexiglass and putting the projector underneath, I lined the plexiglass with white contact paper and the image was great. Setup however left something to be desired, between the mirror, the table, the computer, and the shifting environment.
This was the original "test" of it using a white sheet. Projector table.jpg That led me to pursue new avenues. I began to design a game table for when I eventually had a "game room" set up. Which I am happy to say I now have. Not quite finished with it but getting close. Game table.jpg The table is much larger than it may appear in the photograph, I had to design it to fit 8 people, so its about 5' x 7' roughly. |
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I've been playing with getting a projector to work. Certainly not as easy as i had originally hoped. Starting to think about getting a 55"-60" tv instead and mounting it into a table.
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The projector did not work well overhead in my experience, I tried it a few different ways but there was a lot of things to work through with it. The picture was definitely better with the projector because there was no gap between the mini(if you are using those) and the image. With the tv I put a piece of plexiglass on top (will upgrade to glass with the next installment) which looks great and works great for things like maptool, but if you are using minis it does create a gap, making it difficult for all involved to know which square you are actually in.
Also as a side note, the tv is 43" and leaves everyone with plenty of space on the outlying areas. Everyone has their own idea of how big the tv "needs to be" but I found that a 43 was a great size, and not too much on cost. I probably spent 200 on the table, already had all the monitors and attachments. Last edited by Oberons_child; August 28th, 2016 at 11:14 AM. |
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That's called parallax.
To combat that you need the minis as close to the tv's LCD surface as possible. The best way to accomplish that is to get a TV with side-firing LEDs that light the LCD as they are FAR thinner. Most of the newer TVs have a rear-mounted LED array that makes the TV thicker and induces Parallax. I have a previous post in this thread that shows my setup with a TV with side-firing LEDs, it has ZERO parallax. The tv's also so thin we can easily drop it on the table and remove it (no need to embed it in the tabletop), removing all that extensive cabinetry work ;-) Quote:
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I'm guessing there is far more paralax being introduced by the glass/plexi being elevated above the screen because of the TV's plastic bezel, and the thickness of the glass/plexi than there would be from the actually thickness of the LCD panel itself.
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