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Technically no such thing as Armies of the End Times. The 50% Lords/Heroes is an official update to Warhammer rules. Please see the FAQ at http://www.blacklibrary.com/Download...LEBOOKv1.9.pdf. Note this also includes Lore of Undeath now available to any Wizard as part of baseline rules.
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The system will default to end of times in the next release. However pre end of time will remain as an option for to's who do not use of times ruleset in their events
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I just updated my AB to v3.4c and now my Undead legions list no longer allows the screaming banner on my skeletons or the banner of the barrows on my Grave Guard. Not sure what happened there...
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Undead Legion lost access to magic items from the VC and TK army books. I did not see an errata in the updates covering this. I understand this to be a hotly contested topic on the internet, however I also understand this subject is not even remotely close to resolved OR FAQ'd by GW.
If you insist on siding against UL having access to those magic items can you please add a switch to allow access so that those who politely disagree with you may still use army builder for army list construction? Thanks. |
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Note, in the Undead Legions book it specifically states on page 20 first paragraph: "you must use the unit profiles, points costs, equipment, options and special rules found in either Warhammer VC/TK."
Page 84 of VC book: Where it explains "Using the Army List" and shows the stats and such, Options says this: "This is a list of optional weapons and armour, mounts, magic items and other upgrades for units or characters, including the points cost for each..." So in an UL list, VC can use any and all magic items specific to them in their book and TK can use any magic items specific to them in their book. But they can't swap those items back and forth. ie; liche priest with black periapt. Please to fix |
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The army builder team supporting Warhammer Fantasy has always seemed to me to be above meddling in discussions not yet decided when it comes to rules disputes, and I admired that about the team. I would hope they would remain so, and maintain a neutral stance with regard to these discussions. |
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EDIT: Like archamedius said, Army Builder should maintain a neutral stance. In 2.85 a ruleset will be added to either allow or forbid these magic items for End of Times armies. As a side note, there are a lot of other disputes regarding undead legions, mostly about unusual wizards and usage of the undeath lore, and i'd like to hear your opinion about them. Those that come to mind are: Kairos, Teclis, Kroak, Loremaster of Hoeth, Doomfire Warlocks, Sisters of the Thorn, Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, Dragon Mage of Caledor, Alarielle, Morathi and ALL character with one or more Loremaster rule (except Mazdamundi, for obvious reasons). ATM this is the situation for them:
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Thank you for being open minded to discussion and maintaining neutrality in the discussion. |
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You're welcome, and thank you for your reply. Mind though that Loremasters may opt for Undeath in place of the Lore they have the Loremaster rule for as things stand now, with Count Mannfred being the exception as he gets Undeath in addition to his 2 lores. Basically they can either generate normally from Undeath and ignore Loremaster, or apply it. Seeing how you think that loremasters shouldn't get undeath, did you miss this passage?
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