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[rob]

Originally Posted by mirtos

Makes sense. As an aside, can we control the local drive the database is installed on?

At the moment, no. That's something we'll need to provide some flexibility on. The gotcha with doing that is we potentially run into nasty issues with people using Dropbox for syncing and blowing things up in the process. I'm not sure how we'll handle that at this point.

[mirtos]

Originally Posted by rob

At the moment, no. That's something we'll need to provide some flexibility on. The gotcha with doing that is we potentially run into nasty issues with people using Dropbox for syncing and blowing things up in the process. I'm not sure how we'll handle that at this point.

makes sense, but i was thinking less about the dropbox and more about storing on a drive thats more reliable than the c: drive (SSD vs HD)

I mean you cant stop people from using drop box no matter what drive/directory you install on. I could EASILY change my dropbox folder to point to wherever you install.

So isnt that more of a warning/disclaimer issue?

[Somahan]

Agree with the above analysis. You cannot stop people from attempting to the wrong thing at their own risk, you can simply state that the database must be installed on the local PC for the product to work.

Transaction based files just wont work neatly with cloud drives unless they are a local copy that replays transaction logs to the cloud drive at points in time.

If people are trying to do their own cloud service I doubt it will be as functional as the cloud service which you deliver! Your cloud service adds functionality to Realm Works that can only be enabled by updating through web APIs to a web service that you have built. Nothing stops anybody from remote desktop to their own home PC if they have it all set up over the Internet or buying a cloud desktop to run the software on with they could do with most applications today.

[Thrantor]

Originally Posted by Somahan

If people are trying to do their own cloud service I doubt it will be as functional as the cloud service which you deliver! Your cloud service adds functionality to Realm Works that can only be enabled by updating through web APIs to a web service that you have built. Nothing stops anybody from remote desktop to their own home PC if they have it all set up over the Internet or buying a cloud desktop to run the software on with they could do with most applications today.

Yep, Mostly I want the ability to be able to work on it at home and at work. And if I can get it to sync through Dropbox... Awesome. If I have to do the backup/restore through Dropbox... I will.

And once we get the real cloud sync... choir of angels awesome. I just know that I tend to get all my "Damnit, I need to write this down" ideas at work and then do the heavy lifting at home.

Worst case, I take full responsibility for anything I break in my own data. I will encourage people to point and laugh when I lose who knows how much data since my last backup.

"Lookit im... e's funny. 'e lost an entire dungeon to stupid. Watch im cry!"

[rob]

Originally Posted by mirtos

makes sense, but i was thinking less about the dropbox and more about storing on a drive thats more reliable than the c: drive (SSD vs HD)

I mean you cant stop people from using drop box no matter what drive/directory you install on. I could EASILY change my dropbox folder to point to wherever you install.

So isnt that more of a warning/disclaimer issue?

Yes and no. We should ideally detect local vs. non-local (NAS & USB/removable) drives and only allow installation to local drives. For things like Dropbox, all we can do is display prominent warnings. But we need to safeguard against this as much as possible.

Even if we do all that, someone out there will ignore the warnings and then blame us when their own willful ignorance bites them in the butt. And they'll make sure to tell everyone across the internet that it's our fault, conveniently omitting the critical details about how they were stupid and ignored the warnings. That's just the nature of people, I guess.

[Thrantor]

Originally Posted by rob

Even if we do all that, someone out there will ignore the warnings and then blame us when their own willful ignorance bites them in the butt. And they'll make sure to tell everyone across the internet that it's our fault, conveniently omitting the critical details about how they were stupid and ignored the warnings. That's just the nature of people, I guess.

Sadly, that is the nature of people. Those of us that know when we screw around we take our data in our own hands know better. If I screw something up, I'm not coming after you guys.

But I certainly know other people will if it's not screamed all over not to do it. And even then, they will still do it and bitch after.

[WildMonkeyLaura]

My howl is a bit late but no less excited, I can't wait to take a peek under the hood.

[BoomerET]

In the words of Inigo Montoya: "I hate waiting"

[gloranphile]

Originally Posted by WildMonkeyLaura

My howl is a bit late but no less excited, I can't wait to take a peek under the hood.

Hello from a fellow Howler in the Mile High city.

[Serpine]

Originally Posted by BoomerET

In the words of Inigo Montoya: "I hate waiting"

Shouldn't be long now. I'm a rough approximation of giddy with anticipation...