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wbdavison
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Old March 4th, 2014, 01:21 PM
I would like to get an idea if Realmworks will be available on a disk at release or will it be available by download only?
What is the expected time beyond release that a hard copy will be available to order?
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Old March 4th, 2014, 01:43 PM
Our plan currently is that Realm Works will be available via download through our website. If that ever changes, we'll definitely announce it on our website.

Out of curiosity, any reason why you'd prefer the hard copy?
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Old March 4th, 2014, 01:48 PM
Slow internet speeds make large downloads difficult. It is nice to have backups of software for when bad things happen and you need to get up and running again.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 07:35 PM
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Slow internet speeds make large downloads difficult. It is nice to have backups of software for when bad things happen and you need to get up and running again.
I'm in Montana. We have the slowest internet speeds in the country. I can tell you now there is no issue.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 08:54 PM
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I'm in Montana. We have the slowest internet speeds in the country. I can tell you now there is no issue.

You should try out our company network. a 2.5mb download has taken us 24 hours to download. And that's on what they claim is a T1 line. Oh, did I mention I work at a high end electronic store. (Ironic isn't it?)
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Old March 5th, 2014, 03:13 AM
I'm a fan of "owning" my own hard-copy as well, and for programs that aren't in need of update all that often (e.g. Campaign Cartographer) it works well. For a program like HeroLab, on the other hand, a hard copy would be completely useless as there's some sort of update - either from Lone Wolf or from the community users - about every other week.

So for me, I guess the value in this would depend on how often Realm Works will need an update or have new material coming in. With all the features on the drawing board to be added in post version 1.0, I'm guessing that sticking with the current model will be the way to go.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 07:00 AM
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You should try out our company network. a 2.5mb download has taken us 24 hours to download. And that's on what they claim is a T1 line. Oh, did I mention I work at a high end electronic store. (Ironic isn't it?)
If you guys really have a T1 line, I'd say that you're having other problems. For instance, if you're connecting to a computer with slow internet, it doesn't matter how fast yours is - the bottleneck may not be on your end.

If that's a typical problem in your workplace, you're either moving A LOT of data or you guys should really look at your network security - something isn't right.

On topic: I do tend to forget that there are still many areas of the country that lack decent internet...but for a one-time download, I'd think that people could go through that initial setup pain. You WILL need to have some form of internet to use the program (at least, as I understand things, never having actually USED the program).

If the demand is high enough, perhaps Lone Wolf could charge a premium for the disk - get someone to burn a hundred disks and ship 'em out. You'd just have to charge enough additional to pay for the time, materials, and shipping cost.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 09:40 AM
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You should try out our company network. a 2.5mb download has taken us 24 hours to download. And that's on what they claim is a T1 line. Oh, did I mention I work at a high end electronic store. (Ironic isn't it?)
A T1 connection is limited to only 1.5Mb/s download, which is horrifically slow by today's standards.

Modern-day ISPs (Comcast, Wide Open West, etc) now provide 15-50 Mb/s standard. (2-6+ MB/s)


However, JackOfAllGames is correct, 2.5Mb should NOT take that long, even on old-school 56kb/s dial-up!

Unless, of course, that poor T1 is being tasked by many people downloading simultaneously. If you have the entire bandwidth to yourself, then I would say around 2 minutes would be ideal.






Also of note:
Mbps = Mb/s = Megabits per second.
MBps = MB/s = Megabytes per second. There are 8 bits in a byte.

Many people get confused when they pay for 15Mb/s internet, and only get around 2MB/s when they download something. It's the same.

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Old March 6th, 2014, 08:21 PM
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You should try out our company network. a 2.5mb download has taken us 24 hours to download. And that's on what they claim is a T1 line. Oh, did I mention I work at a high end electronic store. (Ironic isn't it?)
They seem to have something going on with their lines. Yeah, that is just horrible.

I loved moving here. I never want to live anywhere else. I can see Glacier National Park from my window, and I go the 8 miles to the park on a regular basis to read with my iPad... but man... internet speeds here just suck. Sadly, the gaming situation here also sucks. So generally I just read and do things outdoors.

I have an acquaintance that moved to Ghana. He talks about how bad the internet is there. But even he says it is a bit better than Montana.

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Old March 6th, 2014, 05:35 PM
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I'm in Montana. We have the slowest internet speeds in the country. I can tell you now there is no issue.
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On topic: I do tend to forget that there are still many areas of the country that lack decent internet...
You guys, you maybe need to think a little bigger than "the country". Gaming is an international hobby and RW is an international product, even if limited to audiences who speak English (I have no idea what translations LWD do or don't have/plan). There is quite the variety of internet speed and quality to be had out there.

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