Looks like Starfinder Beta is coming next week. Guess it was not hidden on Facebook this time. It was a tweet.
Perhaps if you had looked here... http://forums.wolflair.com/showpost.php?p=256610&postcount=63
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Looks like Starfinder Beta is coming next week. Guess it was not hidden on Facebook this time. It was a tweet.
I expected you to say that. I am very sorry but the post on the forums and the one on tweeter are NOT the same. The tweet gives specific information that everyone wanted to know.Perhaps if you had looked here... http://forums.wolflair.com/showpost.php?p=256610&postcount=63
Given that this was based on a $2 a month extortion fee, which was a "suggested / maybe / kinda / we don't really know yet" amount I believe and not an actual, hard, we know what were doing number I think your comparison is far too optimistic myself.
The new system is over time going to be absurdly expensive between buying data packs and the extortion fee, plus a conversion fee and the first time you miss a payment every single penny of that expense is wasted unless you agree to start paying the extortion fee again.
That's all based on $2 a month. The $2 a month is going to be the introductory rate and as soon as enough people are invested far enough it will go up. The extortion fee always goes up. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in neverland.
Perhaps if you had looked here... http://forums.wolflair.com/showpost.php?p=256610&postcount=63
I'm with ShadowChemosh. The two posts do not mean the same thing.I expected you to say that. I am very sorry but the post on the forums and the one on tweeter are NOT the same. The tweet gives specific information that everyone wanted to know.
The forum post is a general message saying "something" is going to be said. They do NOT mean the same thing. I understand that you think they do and I understand you want to blame "me" for misunderstanding again.
At this point its VERY clear you and I do not see eye to eye at all. We speak different languages and have very different views of the world.
I do apologize for my little dig about Facebook. I won't ever bring that up again.
As one that is unlikely to use Starfinder, although I did give it a look at Gencon, I agree with Shadow and kbs666... Since I AM in fact one of those users that DOES NOT use facebook, tweet, nor any of the other "presumed social media" for a multitude of reasons I won't list here.I'll remind you that not everyone uses FaceBook or Twitter. This forum is advertised as you official web presence. News should get posted here as well as on those other platforms.
As one that is unlikely to use Starfinder, although I did give it a look at Gencon, I agree with Shadow and kbs666... Since I AM in fact one of those users that DOES NOT use facebook, tweet, nor any of the other "presumed social media" for a multitude of reasons I won't list here.
BUT, I am a LWD products user and this forum, as presented by LWD, is their web presence as well as their news letter that I also subscribe to. It would be my expectation as a customer that LWD would utilize those "prefered" media outlets that they delegated inclusively, not subjectively, or inconsistently.
And I would think the order of precedence (if one was needed) would be:
Website News - http://www.wolflair.com/news/
Forum- http://forums.wolflair.com/
Newsletter- http://www.wolflair.com/news/newsletter/
Socialmedia- whatever is applicable
Snailmail?- Presumably USPS
Public Events- Various Conventions, Public Meets.
I don't think you quite understand the meaning of the word extortion because you are using the word incorrectly in this context.
Nope, I looked it up again.
"the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats."
Nope, I looked it up again.
"the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats."
If you don't pay the extortion fee, you lose access to your stuff in any real usable format. You lose access to all of the data packages you've bought and paid for.
Loss of access and the money you've sunk into data packages is the threat.
I do not like the lose everything part of the arrangement. If I pay for the starfinder data package I should always be able to make a simple character / ships and update them as they level using the data packs I've bought without paying an extortion fee. If they want to charge extra for advanced features to make gameplay easier over and above character creation / leveling, god bless, that's fair.
Nope, I looked it up again.
"the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats."
If you don't pay the extortion fee, you lose access to your stuff in any real usable format. You lose access to all of the data packages you've bought and paid for.
Loss of access and the money you've sunk into data packages is the threat.
I do not like the lose everything part of the arrangement. If I pay for the starfinder data package I should always be able to make a simple character / ships and update them as they level using the data packs I've bought without paying an extortion fee. If they want to charge extra for advanced features to make gameplay easier over and above character creation / leveling, god bless, that's fair.
They could avoid the whole issue if they'd just make Starfinder character creation available thru HLC.
Perhaps, but we as customers have to accept that this is not the model they have chosen and move on (whether we like it or not).
And move on I shall. I know personally 10 people who will not pay a subscription fee in order to use HLO and each of them is in multiple groups. Word of mouth is a powerful thing.
Sure, it's only a $2/month charge... But when they decide, hey, $2 isn't enough to keep the servers running, lets make it $5... or $10... or $50?
I'm sorry, you can't have what you paid for until you keep coughing up more moola.
personally i cannot wait to get herolab online but maybe thats just me