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DarkHerald

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I was wondering if there was any consideration been made for the following games to be included in Herolabs:

Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (TSR / Wizards of the Coast)
Adventurer Conqueror King (Autarch)
**Basic Roleplaying (Chaosium Inc.)
**Castles & Crusades (Troll Lord Games)
Cyberpunk 2020 (R Talsorian Inc)
Dragon Age (Green Ronin Publishing)
Dungeon Crawl Classics (Goodman Games)
Dungeons & Dragons BECMI (TSR / Wizards of the Coast)
Earthdawn (FASA)
Labyrinth Lord (Goblinoid Games)
**Legend (Mongoose Publishing)
RuneQuest 6 (Mongoose Publishing)
**Swords & Wizardry (Frog God Games)

Persoanlly I would want to see the ones with the ** included in Herolab ASAP, espcially Swords & Wizardry, Basic Roleplaying and Castles & Crusades.
 
I would love to see the stuff from Goblinoid (Labyrinth Lord, Advanced Edition Companion, and maybe even Mutant Future) available for Hero Lab. Considering all the Grognards at Dragonsfoot, there could be a good amount of support. AD&D I couldn't see realistically unless Lone Wolf had some awesome negotiating power with WoTC. Stars Without Number would be cool as well, since it follows the same rule set and both LL and SWN are published under the OGL.
 
I'd really like to see the Tome of Horrors Complete and ToH 4 for Swords & Wizardry in HeroLab so I could throw the stat-blocks in my Realm Works dungeons, etc.
 
If the system is D20 or Pathfinder related, its not terrible difficult to use the Editor and add thse systems yourselves.

If they are unique systems, then the Authoring kit is needed and things get a lot harder.
 
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2e is well on its way. I have a few things left to fine tune and get functioning properly, but for the most part, the data is nearly finished. I have someone helping put in the last of the spells from the Player's Handbook and have been cranking through the mechanics personally. I still have to do character sheet output and statblocks but the user interface is pretty much done.
 
I would love it if there were some AD&D Files as I have gone back to the glory days. Will be looking forward to doing some second ed as well once I get through running the classics.

Also Cyberpunk would be awesome I am probably going to be running some of that as well in the near future.

Haven't played Runequest 6 but I bought it and it looks interesting so I would be interested in that as well if they were available :)
 
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DarkHerald said:
I was wondering if there was any consideration been made for the following games to be included in Herolabs:

Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (TSR / Wizards of the Coast)
Adventurer Conqueror King (Autarch)
**Basic Roleplaying (Chaosium Inc.)
**Castles & Crusades (Troll Lord Games)
Cyberpunk 2020 (R Talsorian Inc)
Dragon Age (Green Ronin Publishing)
Dungeon Crawl Classics (Goodman Games)
Dungeons & Dragons BECMI (TSR / Wizards of the Coast)
Earthdawn (FASA)
Labyrinth Lord (Goblinoid Games)
**Legend (Mongoose Publishing)
RuneQuest 6 (Mongoose Publishing)
**Swords & Wizardry (Frog God Games)

Persoanlly I would want to see the ones with the ** included in Herolab ASAP, espcially Swords & Wizardry, Basic Roleplaying and Castles & Crusades.
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Your best bet is community oriented, many of these games will have small player bases, whcih means the work involved will not likely show a profit. As well most or all are no longer supported. LWD is a business and they need to invest where it makes business sense.

However they have provided us with a editor and an authoring kit, so get your players together as a team and go to it! Share it with others, look at the Pathfinder community files to see what can be achieved, truely great things.
 
Exmortis said:
However they have provided us with an authoring kit.
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Lone Wolf provides a "Skeleton File" for that kit, it is up to the user to turn a copy of that file into a game system. It is no small feat to accomplish. You have to learn xml syntax and how hero lab works. Coding the AD&D 2e files has been an arduous process. I am currently working on the character sheet output, and just have a few things left to do for the UI to have it done. If you're going to build a game system in these files, you should know up front it requires a major commitment of time to do so.
 
RavenX said:
Lone Wolf provides a "Skeleton File" for that kit, it is up to the user to turn a copy of that file into a game system. It is no small feat to accomplish. You have to learn xml syntax and how hero lab works. Coding the AD&D 2e files has been an arduous process. I am currently working on the character sheet output, and just have a few things left to do for the UI to have it done. If you're going to build a game system in these files, you should know up front it requires a major commitment of time to do so.
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Yes I am aware, been working on my campaigns HL file for almost a year now, and that pales to what you have achieved.

But it is an option amd if they team up, it may be doable.
 
Exmortis said:
Yes I am aware, been working on my campaigns HL file for almost a year now, and that pales to what you have achieved.

But it is an option amd if they team up, it may be doable.
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That depends on how its handled. I let others input data as long as everything has been tested rigorously and the editor has what it needs to support it. I did all the actual construction of components myself though. It was just easier on me that way. Sometimes I have to input data myself for the sake of ensuring everything needed in the editor is present first.
 
Call of Cthulhu uses Chaosium's Basic system, and that system is available for purchase for Hero Lab. Once you purchase it, you can copy the system and adjust it as you like to make it more aligned to the generic system.
 
EightBitz said:
Call of Cthulhu uses Chaosium's Basic system, and that system is available for purchase for Hero Lab. Once you purchase it, you can copy the system and adjust it as you like to make it more aligned to the generic system.
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I'm sorry to say that the difference between the Call of Cthulhu system and the BRP is too large - that change cannot be handled purely in the editor, and to create the BRP in HL, you'd need to start from the Skeleton files like any other new game.
 
Earthdawn

Exmortis said:
Your best bet is community oriented, many of these games will have small player bases, whcih means the work involved will not likely show a profit. As well most or all are no longer supported. LWD is a business and they need to invest where it makes business sense.

However they have provided us with a editor and an authoring kit, so get your players together as a team and go to it! Share it with others, look at the Pathfinder community files to see what can be achieved, truely great things.
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FASA is releasing Earthdawn 4th Edition. The Players book is out currently, the DMG is next. Not a programer but would be nice to get community support.

Also while still in player test release, ICE is creating Rolemaster Unified. This would be another one I would love to see developed once it is released.
 
ChrisRevocateur said:
1st Edition could be done using OSRIC as the base, no need for WoTC licensing that way.
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Alternity was released as a free product for Hero Lab as it is a "dead" system. AD&D 1e and 2e may have gotten a re-release of hardbacks but WotC isn't releasing any new content so it is possible they may also see those as "dead" systems. My 2e files are coming along nicely now. I believe they should be done soon.
 
The community and player base for the many rulesets based on pre-3rd edition D&D keeps growing and still no support for any of them?
 
I think Lone Wolf has its paws full and will for quite some time. What the Old School proponents need is a fan development community.
 
RavenX said:
Alternity was released as a free product for Hero Lab as it is a "dead" system. AD&D 1e and 2e may have gotten a re-release of hardbacks but WotC isn't releasing any new content so it is possible they may also see those as "dead" systems. My 2e files are coming along nicely now. I believe they should be done soon.
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I was cursing your name the other day. I was rolling up a 2e character for the first time in I don't know how many years, and I had to do it by HAND with a PENCIL and a RULE BOOK.

Situations like that are TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE! So get move on!

:-p
 
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