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Arijharn April 7th, 2011 01:25 AM

'Duplicate Special Characters'
 
Okay, I realise this should probably be a self-explanatory type validation message, but I'm actually rather confused with it in context.

For giggles, I made up a 20k Daemons of Chaos army list, which includes multiple Heralds and if I make a unit (and populate it with an attached Herald, for example; bloodletter's led by a Herald of Khorne) but later decide to delete that entire unit listing, I get that validation 'error' message. This warning message persists even if I load that same list up at a later date.

This isn't the same sort of message as what I would get if I accidentally included two Masque's, and there's nothing in the rules that say I can't include two Herald's of Slaanesh for example each equipped with an Etherblade either.

All Unit Names are unique in the army list (although individual Herald's within said list aren't -- but this isn't usually a problem). The message 'Duplicate Special Characters' doesn't indicate what exactly is the problem either, or even where it is.

Yobtar April 7th, 2011 06:27 AM

You might want to post this in the Warhammer Fantasy Battle forums so UltraPrime can get a heads up about this.

Yobtar April 11th, 2011 05:42 PM

bump bump bump it up

UltraPrime April 11th, 2011 09:41 PM

I can't replicate this error. Can you take me through step-by-step what you did, please?

Arijharn April 12th, 2011 12:02 AM

I think it's tied to Bloodcrushers (not Bloodletters) of Khorne, that if I add a Herald to it, add some gifts and delete the unit (while another Bloodcrusher unit with or without Herald exists) I get the error.

I just duplicated it again; try this example:
Army Builder v3.3b #243

Made an army list; Daemons of Chaos - 3000points

Went to Rare choices tab (to order list); chose Bloodcrushers (double-clicked), pressed the plus button so that it reads 7 Bloodcrushers (I believe in the whole Khorne 'magic number thing' don't want to offend the Gods of Chance!)
Went to Heroes tab
Chose Herald of Khorne, clicked and dragged hero into the Bloodcrusher's unit, gave him a Juggernaut mount, gave him Etherblade gift.
--
went back to Rare choices, double-clicked another unit of Bloodcrushers; validation error message of Duplicate Special Characters.

I guess this means it's not limited to deleting the unit while other's present, maybe it occurs if two units of Bloodcrushers are next to each other on the list? I'll try that right now: yep. Two Bloodcrusher units appearing in sequential order gives me this message.

Arijharn April 12th, 2011 01:11 AM

Update: it happens if there are two bloodcrushers on the list regardless of how far apart they are, I just duplicated my latest test, but separated by another unit or a few units in between (in my case, I've tested with a unit of Flamers sandwiched between them, a Flamer unit and a Beast of Nurgle unit etc, etc)

gkgnight April 12th, 2011 02:46 AM

ultra i tihnk i can telly ou what is going on...

it thinks the bloodcrushers are a unigue unit when they aren't. EAsy fix, just remove the "generate id tag" from the "other details" section for the unit and problem solved.

Arijharn April 23rd, 2011 03:56 PM

Just bumping this in case Ultra is wondering if this is still 'active' or not (it is).

UltraPrime May 4th, 2011 03:34 AM

I had forgotten, but sorted now :)


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