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Winkmog February 26th, 2011 10:58 AM

Khazad-Dum differences
 
The following differences i have found in The Khazud-Dum sourcebook:

Dain Ironfoot, King of Erebor page 9
Special Rule Barazantathul description need to add but he does not suffer the usual -1 penalty on the roll to win the fight in to the description

Murin & Drar page 9
Murin defence is 8 not 7/8

Gimli page 10
Axes of the dwarves move from equipment to specialist section

Vault Warden Team page 13
Foe Spear fight value is 4 not 4/4
Iron Shield fight value is 4 not 4/4
defence is 9 not 7/9

Dwarf Ballista page 14
Dwarf Crewmen: Specialist section should be Dwarf Engineer Captain not Gondor Engineer captain
Description is missing for Dwarf Engineer Captain (description is found on page 68 of the orb)

Dwarf Ballista Special rule Piercing shot missing and description.

Equipment Option: Better construction change to superior construction (not a major deal) also the description for this is missing (description is found on page 68 of the orb)

Wild Warg Chieften page 18
Special Rule Packlord description change white warg to wild warg

Moria Goblin Drum page 20
Drums in the deep description is missing

Hope this helps
Winkmog

Winkmog February 27th, 2011 08:16 AM

The Shadow In The East differences
 
The following differences i have found in The Shadow In The East sourcebook:

Easterling Kataphrakt page 11
Fight Value 3/4 not 3
Defence 6 not 5
Shield option should be non optional. Comes as standard.

Khandish King page 18
Missing description for chariot

Khandish Chieften page 19
Missing description for chariot

Khandish Charioteer page 20
Missing description for chariot

Eorl the Young page 34
Defence 6 not 5/6
Special Rule Felarof missing description

Winkmog February 28th, 2011 09:41 AM

Harad differences
 
The following differences i have found in the Harad sourcebook:
Very sorry if this one is confusing!!!:confused:

War Mumak of Harad page 13
Special rule Awesome Presence, Fearless!, The Crew are missing.

Mumak 5 special rules and descriptions are missing for the move phase
Mumak 2 special rules and descriptions are missing for the shooting phase
Mumak 5 special rules and descriptions are missing for the combat phase

Im guessing for the above rules that there wont be enough space for all of them. And it would take an age to write them all out.
An option would be to create a special rule called move phase rule with a description saying please refer to page 11 of Harad scourcebook or pages 52 , 53, 54 and 55 of the orb.
And do the same for the shooting phase rules and the combat phase rules.


Equipment: Mahud should say Mahud Beastmaster Chieften. Special Rule and profile stats are missing for this character.

Not sure how your going to add this or if it's even possible? As this is a seperate figure. Maybe leave it as an equipment option and for the description just put please refer to page 13 of the Harad scourcebook or page 158 of the orb.
Or create a new figure profile called War Mumak of Mahud which would be identical to the first but instead of the haradrim chieftens profile below the Mumak have the Mahud Beastmaster Chieftens profile. Just some thoughts.
:confused:

Dalamyr, Fleetmaster of Umbar page 15
Smoke Bombs description currently says If he wins a combat he will strike. Should say if he wins a combat he will not strike.

Watcher of Karna page 17
Special rule Steely Nerve missing and description.

Mahud Warrior page 19
Defence is 5 not 4/5

Mahud Raider page 19
Defence 5 not 4/5 also
Camel is missing and description
Special Rule Impaler missing and description.

Hope this all helps :)

Winkmog March 1st, 2011 11:02 AM

Mordor differences
 
The following differences i have found in the Mordor sourcebook:

Sauron page 8
Sap Will is 3+ not 2+

Witch King of Angmar page 9
Fellbeast/Armoured Fellbeast/Horned Fellbeast Special rule Feral is missing

Warg Rider page 22
Special Rule Crude Throwing Spears is missing

Black Numenorean Warrior page 24
Defence is 6 not 5/6

Morgul Knight page 25
Defence is 6 not 5/6

Mordor Siege Bow page 25
Orc Engineer Captain description is missing (see page 68 of orb)

Mordor War Catapult page 26
Special Rule Indirect fire is missing & description

Black Numenorean Catapult page 27
Black Numenorean Engineer Captain description is missing (see page 68 of orb)
Special Rule Indirect fire is missing & description
Special Rule Cursed Ammunition is missing & description

Cheers
Winkmog

Winkmog March 1st, 2011 11:16 AM

More Differences Found
 
I missed a couple :

Gondor in Flames

Battlecry Trebuchet page 18
Equipment Better construction change to superior construction (not a major deal) also the description for this is missing (description is found on page 68 of the orb)

Also Minas Tirith Engineer Description is missing

Avenger Bolt Thrower page 19

Gondor Engineer Captain description is missing (see page 68 of orb)

Equipment Better construction change to superior construction (not a major deal) also the description for this is missing (description is found on page 68 of the orb)

Solus3 March 1st, 2011 03:56 PM

Hey great to see someone picking up the LOTR torch. I notice also that Goldberry and Tom Bombadil are not in the lists.

I have just finished adding them to my set and it was a bit of a task to work out how to do it. They have a lot of rules about not having Goldberry without Tom.

I would love to get you rupdated fileset. Though.

jlong05 March 2nd, 2011 05:43 AM

I am still working on updates. I will probably be making another batch of updates this week and sending to my Beta Testing group. I am hoping to have a 3-15 release of updated files.

One thing to note. While I do like the format of the current files(several rules are included) remember that these files shouldn't ever be a replacement for owning the actual rules. As such, it's likely that exceptional rules(like the Mumak, One Ring, etc...) may simply refer you to the main rules and provide the page#. This is to help simplify the datafiles as well as protect myself from GW IP issues.

jlong05 March 2nd, 2011 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus3 (Post 52861)
Hey great to see someone picking up the LOTR torch. I notice also that Goldberry and Tom Bombadil are not in the lists.

I have just finished adding them to my set and it was a bit of a task to work out how to do it. They have a lot of rules about not having Goldberry without Tom.

I would love to get you rupdated fileset. Though.

There are several ways to do this with rule set validation, however it's likely not already there since Tom and Goldberry are non-tournament models. I do like having the full list though and will endeavor to add them as well, but indicate they are not tournament valid.

jlong05 March 2nd, 2011 05:48 AM

Here's another thought(one of which I like, but will take time to fully implement).

In my review of the current files I have noticed that gear is used to modify stat values. While this is good for the models buying that gear, the models that come with it as standard are listed initially with lower stats than their actual correct statline.

What does everyone think about this? Should I list the statline as indicated in the rulebook, or continue as current with statlines being updated when added to your army roster? Mostly this affects the Defense stat.

Winkmog March 2nd, 2011 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlong05 (Post 52876)
Here's another thought(one of which I like, but will take time to fully implement).

In my review of the current files I have noticed that gear is used to modify stat values. While this is good for the models buying that gear, the models that come with it as standard are listed initially with lower stats than their actual correct statline.

What does everyone think about this? Should I list the statline as indicated in the rulebook, or continue as current with statlines being updated when added to your army roster? Mostly this affects the Defense stat.

I prefer your idea to follow the statline from the rulebook.
As sometimes when im creating an army i like to click on the strength,defence,attacks heading to list the values from highest to lowest. And always found it strange that after i dragged the figure into my list the value would change.


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