Magic Online Export?
 

Is it at all possible to export my MTGO database to a CSV and import
it into Card Vault?

I just got the program, and it sure looks great, but the idea of
entering all my cards seems rather daunting. I have all my physical
cards entered into MTGO, I really hope I can just bring them over.

Any ideas?


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Magic Online Export?
 

Well, if you're the sort of collector that I am, I limit myself to certain
quantities (i.e., two full play sets). This makes the Batch Edit feature
very useful; I select all commons and uncommons and enter 8 owned for all of
them. This takes a lot of the trouble out of the entry. As for database
import, I'll let Rob or Colen answer.



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Magic Online Export?
 

I have not looked at MTGO recently. When I last looked at it (late last
year), there was no apparent mechanism for exporting your inventory
information at all. It was a closed system that kept users locked in by
preventing them from getting their data back out. In addition, the MTGO
system uses digital signatures for all cards, so the model utilized is
substantively different from the traditional format used in the physical
world of cards and that is modeled within Card Vault.

The goal with most subscription-based online systems is to get the consumer
to invest time into the product and then provide no way to extract that
data and move it elsewhere. This essentially locks the user into the
product, which compels them to keep paying the subscription fee, even if a
better alternative shows up. My assessment was that MTGO adopted this model.

In contrast, Card Vault's formats are completely open. We're establishing
the product as a standard through its ability to integrate smoothly with
other solutions and tools, as well as by providing unparalleled
functionality. It a better solution comes along, it will be relatively easy
to move your data to the other tool, which keeps us motivated to continue
evolving Card Vault. :-)

Unless MTGO has changed recently, if you don't want to stay locked into
MTGO, then you'll probably need to re-invest the time to enter your
inventory again. :-( However, Card Vault's batch editing functionality
provides the means to get the bulk of your collection entered in very short
order. We've had multiple reports of users with collections of 5,000 cards
getting them fully entered into CV within a matter of a couple hours.
That's not a huge investment, given that you gain a great deal of power and
flexibility through CV. :-)

Hope this helps,
Rob

At 05:26 AM 4/19/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Is it at all possible to export my MTGO database to a CSV and import
>it into Card Vault?
>
>I just got the program, and it sure looks great, but the idea of
>entering all my cards seems rather daunting. I have all my physical
>cards entered into MTGO, I really hope I can just bring them over.
>
>Any ideas?


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Magic Online Export?
 

Since no one has responded to this yet I thought I would. I don't
want to debate the merits of how WOTC is handling the digital objects
and their policy for redemtion, I just want to state fact about some
functioanlity within the product.

If you go into your collection and select spreadsheet view. You can
then right-click any row and select "Select All." This will
highlight your entire collection. From there you can right-click
again and select "Export as CSV." And this will export your entire
collection to a CSV file onto your computer. The file has the
following data fields:

Cardname
Qty owned Online
Qty id for trade
Qty you have physically as recorded in MTGO
Rarity
Set
No. within set

If you have the foil version of a card the word "Premium" is in
parathensis at the end of the card name.

With this information is hand, is there an easy mechanism to import
this data into CV?

Thanks,

- Tony






--- In cardvault@yahoogroups.com, Rob Bowes <rob@w...> wrote:
> I have not looked at MTGO recently. When I last looked at it (late
last
> year), there was no apparent mechanism for exporting your inventory
> information at all. It was a closed system that kept users locked
in by
> preventing them from getting their data back out. In addition, the
MTGO
> system uses digital signatures for all cards, so the model utilized
is
> substantively different from the traditional format used in the
physical
> world of cards and that is modeled within Card Vault.
>
> The goal with most subscription-based online systems is to get the
consumer
> to invest time into the product and then provide no way to extract
that
> data and move it elsewhere. This essentially locks the user into
the
> product, which compels them to keep paying the subscription fee,
even if a
> better alternative shows up. My assessment was that MTGO adopted
this model.
>
> In contrast, Card Vault's formats are completely open. We're
establishing
> the product as a standard through its ability to integrate smoothly
with
> other solutions and tools, as well as by providing unparalleled
> functionality. It a better solution comes along, it will be
relatively easy
> to move your data to the other tool, which keeps us motivated to
continue
> evolving Card Vault. :-)
>
> Unless MTGO has changed recently, if you don't want to stay locked
into
> MTGO, then you'll probably need to re-invest the time to enter your
> inventory again. :-( However, Card Vault's batch editing
functionality
> provides the means to get the bulk of your collection entered in
very short
> order. We've had multiple reports of users with collections of
5,000 cards
> getting them fully entered into CV within a matter of a couple
hours.
> That's not a huge investment, given that you gain a great deal of
power and
> flexibility through CV. :-)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Rob
>
> At 05:26 AM 4/19/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> >Is it at all possible to export my MTGO database to a CSV and
import
> >it into Card Vault?
> >
> >I just got the program, and it sure looks great, but the idea of
> >entering all my cards seems rather daunting. I have all my physical
> >cards entered into MTGO, I really hope I can just bring them over.
> >
> >Any ideas?
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
> Rob Bowes (rob@w...) (559) 658-6995
> Lone Wolf Development
www.wolflair.com


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Magic Online Export?
 

This export functionality either wasn't present in the earlier versions of
MTGO or I completely missed it. Thanks for pointing this out!!

If MTGO exports the inventory as a CSV file, then it should be relatively
easy to convert it to the XML format needed by Card Vault. We'll make a
point of generating a converter in the near future. Unfortunately, there is
no converter currently available - I didn't know MTGO output the data until
now! If you want to do it yourself in the meantime, the Card Vault format
is outlined the "Card Vault Interchange Formats" document included with the
Authoring Kit.

Thanks for pointing out this functionality within MTGO. We'll get something
together shortly.

-Rob

At 12:50 PM 4/23/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Since no one has responded to this yet I thought I would. I don't
>want to debate the merits of how WOTC is handling the digital objects
>and their policy for redemtion, I just want to state fact about some
>functioanlity within the product.
>
>If you go into your collection and select spreadsheet view. You can
>then right-click any row and select "Select All." This will
>highlight your entire collection. From there you can right-click
>again and select "Export as CSV." And this will export your entire
>collection to a CSV file onto your computer. The file has the
>following data fields:
>
>Cardname
>Qty owned Online
>Qty id for trade
>Qty you have physically as recorded in MTGO
>Rarity
>Set
>No. within set
>
>If you have the foil version of a card the word "Premium" is in
>parathensis at the end of the card name.
>
>With this information is hand, is there an easy mechanism to import
>this data into CV?
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Tony


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