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Merion December 3rd, 2018 06:38 AM

UI Overhaul Suggestion: Options to Ribbons
 
Realm Works gives you a lot of options and with active development having picked up again, we'll hopefully see more in the future.

This brings me to the UI, the accessment and location of all these options. Even as a frequent user for several years, I keep searching options and we see asking people for help here regularly.
I think this is because they are spread out over the screen and visually hidden in drop-down menus behind the hammer and wrench symbol. I'm not a fan of drop-downs. Even though I was sceptical at first, I think the last ten years have shown that ribbons are the better way to do it. RW already has ribbons, but uses them only sparsly.
Other programs like MS Office have a basic set of ribbon tabs and context-sensitive others that only appear when appropriate (like picture or table tools).

Thus my concrete suggestion is:
Move everything that is currently in a option menu to ribbon menus and maybe hide those that aren't currently useful for the player.

Vargr December 3rd, 2018 11:43 AM

I am probably just an old goat that haven't moved with the times and have no idea what young people want, but I hate ribbons.

I work a lot with excel (making spreadsheets) and the ribbons have slowed down my working speed quite a bit.

Apart from that, it would be helpful to make the location of some of the options more obvious.

Parody December 3rd, 2018 11:54 AM

I've said multiple times that RW is a non-Ribbon Ribbon application, basically because they made the decision to not put the commands in the Ribbon. I doubt it's going to change now.

daplunk December 3rd, 2018 04:30 PM

I think the problem with this is the configuration options are specific to snippets. Ribbons are great for things that are specific to the topic but RW isnt really designed that way.

I'd love to see an expanded right click menu on Snippets. I think you could utilise that quite successfully. Simply right click a snippet to have the tool box menu options come up. Would be quicker and easier for people to grasp.

Greebo December 3rd, 2018 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vargr (Post 273562)
I am probably just an old goat that haven't moved with the times and have no idea what young people want, but I hate ribbons.

I work a lot with excel (making spreadsheets) and the ribbons have slowed down my working speed quite a bit.

Apart from that, it would be helpful to make the location of some of the options more obvious.

Me too.

The ribbon structure in Office 365 is just plain horrible and slows me down every single time.

Merion December 4th, 2018 03:03 AM

Well, I guess there are still quite a few people who don't like using ribbons.

Actually, the ribbons part is the less important point I'm trying to make here. The main problem in my eyes is that the options are so spread out, not immediatly visible and need too many clicks to be reached.

I would want them to be in one place, more accessible and easier to find. Whatever form this then would take.

Vargr December 8th, 2018 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daplunk (Post 273580)
I think the problem with this is the configuration options are specific to snippets. Ribbons are great for things that are specific to the topic but RW isnt really designed that way.

I'd love to see an expanded right click menu on Snippets. I think you could utilise that quite successfully. Simply right click a snippet to have the tool box menu options come up. Would be quicker and easier for people to grasp.

This!

The only good thing in the Excel 2016 Interface - and it works great!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merion (Post 273590)
Well, I guess there are still quite a few people who don't like using ribbons.

Actually, the ribbons part is the less important point I'm trying to make here. The main problem in my eyes is that the options are so spread out, not immediatly visible and need too many clicks to be reached.

I would want them to be in one place, more accessible and easier to find. Whatever form this then would take.

I agree - while ribbons and their usefulness is debatable the need for some better organisation and better visibility of the options is not (IMNSHO).

Valyar December 9th, 2018 10:54 PM

I am OK with the interface as is, but I want more shortcuts and the ribbon to be more quick in displaying the shortcuts in the formatting tab (Alt+f)

kbs666 December 10th, 2018 04:22 AM

Ribbons are tough. A single static, or nearly static one rarely satisfies anyone. Bunches of ribbons just clutter the screen and make it hard to find what you're looking for. I can't think of a single application where I routinely use the ribbon over the menus or shortcuts.

Gord December 15th, 2018 09:57 AM

Interestingly enough, Microsoft is now going away from the ribbon in some of their office 365 software (or at least in the beta versions). I find there is a case to be made for both ways depending on circumstances. I tend to be a "right click" kind of guy myself.


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